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Message: <blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8174195" data-attributes="member: 6855259">You are talking about a wizard casting two second-level spells in a battle to become nearly unhitable by most foes.  That is hardly expensive.  The fighter can not come close to that, and even without that expense of spell slots she is will ahead of the fighter.The guy in plate armor really can't really do what I am talking about, and we have such players in our game.  Unless he has a shield and takes defense fighting style the guy in plate is much easier to hit than a bladesinger in bladesong even without casting any second level spells.Plate guy has an 18 AC, wizard has a 23.  Lowly Goblins are going to hit plate guy nearly four times as often as a bladesinger.  like I said that is without using any 2nd level spells and it is without taking the dodge action.  If they both take the dodge action plate guy is 10 time more likely to get hit by goblins.  He does not have 10 times as many hit points, or 4 times as many hit points as the wizard.Surround a 2nd level 18 AC fighter in plate (which is hard to come  by this early) with 8 Goblins and he is going to get bloodied and will usually get killed in 3 rounds unless he takes dodge action.  If he takes dodge his class brings nothing at all to the table and he is still behind the bladesinger doing likewise.  Surround a bladesinger with the same 8 goblins and there is a 50-50 chance she wont get hit at all and will usually survive the fight.Now if we are talking 1v8 Goblins, where you don't have a party killing the enemy.  It looks grim for both but the fighter is more likely to survive than the wizard is as you have to attack to actually to have any chance to win such a fight.  The wizard would not even try that though, she would open with sleep or grease or flee ...... plate man would flee too if he was smart, but going Nova in round 1 with some lucky rolls might win it for him.Key here is the bladesinger is not in the front to kill Goblins.  She is not a melee "fighter" like the fighter is.  That is the difference.</blockquote>

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