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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8174262" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>Plate guys AC is 18 if he is still alive, if fights completely ran a mid-level single-class bladesinger out of spell slots he probably isn't though and if they ran a high level bladesinger out he definitely isn't.</p><p></p><p>With point buy, awizard's AC is generally 16 at low levels without bladesong or shield. It is higher at higher levels and can equal 18 straight up if you build her that way. Rolling a character (as I did in the example above) can make this more effective and higher. The main difference is the Wizard chooses which fights she needs better AC. Bladesong scales with proficiency so if you are assuming 6 fights a day she is in bladesong for a third of them at 2nd level, half of them at 5th level and two-thirds at 9th level. So at 9th level, before using any slots or optimizing feats, she has a better AC than a fighter in plate in most fights for the day and those most are going to be the tougher fights to boot.</p><p></p><p>It depends on what level you are how big an investment it is. A 4th-level wizard gets 4 2nd-level slots a day. Using two of them in one fight is a big expense for such a character, but not out of line if it is the "big fight" for that day. You are talking about going nova on someone here - burning two 2nd level slots in 2 rounds. Would you say casting a web and a blindness in the same fight against a boss and his minions at level 4 is huge?</p><p></p><p>That is not an every fight tactic at low level where there are limited slots. The guy you would do that for though is someone who can 1-shot you pretty easy with a crit AND who gets multiple such attacks AND who you need to also be on offense for. If you don't need offense you save one of the slots and just dodge and if he doesn't get multiple attacks you don't really worry that much about a critical with disadvantage go with the odds you won't take it.</p><p></p><p>Limited slots are a concern with a bladesinger. I am not underplaying that. If you are talking about a single class character it is generally managable though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8174262, member: 6855259"] Plate guys AC is 18 if he is still alive, if fights completely ran a mid-level single-class bladesinger out of spell slots he probably isn't though and if they ran a high level bladesinger out he definitely isn't. With point buy, awizard's AC is generally 16 at low levels without bladesong or shield. It is higher at higher levels and can equal 18 straight up if you build her that way. Rolling a character (as I did in the example above) can make this more effective and higher. The main difference is the Wizard chooses which fights she needs better AC. Bladesong scales with proficiency so if you are assuming 6 fights a day she is in bladesong for a third of them at 2nd level, half of them at 5th level and two-thirds at 9th level. So at 9th level, before using any slots or optimizing feats, she has a better AC than a fighter in plate in most fights for the day and those most are going to be the tougher fights to boot. It depends on what level you are how big an investment it is. A 4th-level wizard gets 4 2nd-level slots a day. Using two of them in one fight is a big expense for such a character, but not out of line if it is the "big fight" for that day. You are talking about going nova on someone here - burning two 2nd level slots in 2 rounds. Would you say casting a web and a blindness in the same fight against a boss and his minions at level 4 is huge? That is not an every fight tactic at low level where there are limited slots. The guy you would do that for though is someone who can 1-shot you pretty easy with a crit AND who gets multiple such attacks AND who you need to also be on offense for. If you don't need offense you save one of the slots and just dodge and if he doesn't get multiple attacks you don't really worry that much about a critical with disadvantage go with the odds you won't take it. Limited slots are a concern with a bladesinger. I am not underplaying that. If you are talking about a single class character it is generally managable though. [/QUOTE]
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