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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8174771" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>The higher your AC, the less attacks you're going to get. It doesn't help you tank, it stops you from being a tank.</p><p></p><p>This low level bladesinger now has Dex 18 (ASI or half feat) AND Sentinel?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Great, he did his job!</p><p></p><p>He not only killed a lot of things personally, he tanked every single hit, keeping the party safe.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're missing the point. The Bladesinger takes the dodge action and is not attacked. <strong>He hasnt stopped a single monster, and the monsters instead attack the other PCs, killing one</strong>.</p><p></p><p>How have you helped the party overcome the encounter? What have you achieved here?</p><p></p><p>For all the Orcs care, you can keep dancing around taking the dodge action with <em>shield </em>ready all you want while the monsters tear your friends to bits.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Bladesinger (as a 5th level <strong>Wizard</strong>) should have dumped a <em>fireball </em>in this encounter (before recovering that spell slot with arcane recovery next short rest). It kills every single Orc, and leaves the Orogs with a handfull of HP to be picked off at will. The encounter is over before it begins.</p><p></p><p><em>Sleep </em>also works as it shuts down at 2-3 Orcs.</p><p></p><p>Instead, he's wandered forward and taken the Dodge action. In return, the Orcs ignore him and wail on the other PCs in the party, focussing their attention on someone they can hit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Elf goes first. He walks in to the room uses bladesong (bonus action) and takes the Dodge action.</p><p></p><p>The Barbarian goes next. He walks into the room, uses rage (bonus action), recklessly attacks with GWM toggled on and attacks twice, killing two Orcs.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who has achieved <strong>more </strong>this turn - the Elf or the Barbarian?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who do the Orcs now look to attack - the Elf or the Barbarian?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Who is the more enticing target to attack?</li> </ul><p>Really, the Elf would have been better off simply lobbing in a <em>sleep </em>spell and shutting down 2-3 Orcs for a single 1st level slot. That's a far better use of his action than dodging and far better use of a 1st level spell slot than <em>shield</em>.</p><p></p><p>Having a high AC doesnt help the party unless the monsters have some reason to want to attack you. If all you're doing is dodging then you can basically be ignored while they murder the other PCs that are actually contributing to the fight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8174771, member: 6788736"] The higher your AC, the less attacks you're going to get. It doesn't help you tank, it stops you from being a tank. This low level bladesinger now has Dex 18 (ASI or half feat) AND Sentinel? Great, he did his job! He not only killed a lot of things personally, he tanked every single hit, keeping the party safe. You're missing the point. The Bladesinger takes the dodge action and is not attacked. [B]He hasnt stopped a single monster, and the monsters instead attack the other PCs, killing one[/B]. How have you helped the party overcome the encounter? What have you achieved here? For all the Orcs care, you can keep dancing around taking the dodge action with [I]shield [/I]ready all you want while the monsters tear your friends to bits. The Bladesinger (as a 5th level [B]Wizard[/B]) should have dumped a [I]fireball [/I]in this encounter (before recovering that spell slot with arcane recovery next short rest). It kills every single Orc, and leaves the Orogs with a handfull of HP to be picked off at will. The encounter is over before it begins. [I]Sleep [/I]also works as it shuts down at 2-3 Orcs. Instead, he's wandered forward and taken the Dodge action. In return, the Orcs ignore him and wail on the other PCs in the party, focussing their attention on someone they can hit. The Elf goes first. He walks in to the room uses bladesong (bonus action) and takes the Dodge action. The Barbarian goes next. He walks into the room, uses rage (bonus action), recklessly attacks with GWM toggled on and attacks twice, killing two Orcs. [LIST] [*]Who has achieved [B]more [/B]this turn - the Elf or the Barbarian? [*]Who do the Orcs now look to attack - the Elf or the Barbarian? [*]Who is the more enticing target to attack? [/LIST] Really, the Elf would have been better off simply lobbing in a [I]sleep [/I]spell and shutting down 2-3 Orcs for a single 1st level slot. That's a far better use of his action than dodging and far better use of a 1st level spell slot than [I]shield[/I]. Having a high AC doesnt help the party unless the monsters have some reason to want to attack you. If all you're doing is dodging then you can basically be ignored while they murder the other PCs that are actually contributing to the fight. [/QUOTE]
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