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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 5903534" data-attributes="member: 3192">1. The rogue doesn't fight fair.I agree. In fact, in the game called Thief the thief isn't seeking out combat most of the time. They're up to other stuff (and rogue just means going solo).2. Rogues are skilled.I have to say mundane skills are class skills and I don't care for any class being somehow better than every other one at all of them. I'll be dropping any skill or feat system though, so this won't be an issue for me.3. The rogue exists in a world of myth, fantasy, and legend.In terms of NPC persuasion I think magic is much more of an override of the NPCs knowledge, personal control, opinions, goals, and preferences. This is only one way to do it, but I think magic works as a "poof!" the king believes I am his friend when that spell has a Charm effect. As his "friend" I still need to convince him of certain positions, but that's not as difficult now. Any other class can play the standard game of convincing and informing NPCs through communication, and that stuff does stick longer, but it takes longer to perform too. Neither is it somehow the realm of the Thief, but I could see the realm of deceit as something a thief could specialize in. That probably means dividing the reaction roll into bluffing and diplomacy or something like that, but if the skill system is dropped it won't be necessary. 4. The rogue makes the routine look trivial.I disagree with this. If it was kept strictly in the abilities of the thief instead of every ability imaginable, then it could be made to work, but it basically ends up with the class evolving into another race instead of working within the abilities of a chosen race. Is there a distinction between swapping in new body parts and training the ones you have so they improve? That's the question I see here.</blockquote>

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