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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7976801" data-attributes="member: 2525">That's not what I was talking about. It has nothing to do with where the Echo is or an ally next to the target.&nbsp; But as you state later ,&quot;All that out of the way, wow, Echo Knight can be really damned great with a Rogue because attacking an enemy while you are hidden gives you advantage on the attack. Your echo isn't you. So sit back in the shadows and let your echo do the work.&quot; Yes, that is what I was talking about.If I hide - as in me in my physical body - then &quot;When a creature can't see you, you have advantage on attack rolls against it.&quot; I can make that attack originate from the Echo's space instead of my own, &quot;When you take the Attack action on your turn, any attack you make with that action can originate from your space or the echo’s space. You make this choice for each attack. &quot; So the target cannot see me because I am hidden. So my attack should have advantage, and I am just changing the origination spot where the attack comes from.Oh sure I was not thinking about making attacks through a wall with that trick. I was thinking about essentially teleporting using that trick.&nbsp; Switching places with the Echo on the other side of a door which was placed there by being able to see through the eyes of the familiar. Particularly useful if there is a crack in a window on the second story that's still within 15' of my real body.Now that I had not considered. Interesting.See now this is the sort of devious mind I wanted working on this problem!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7976801, member: 2525"] That's not what I was talking about. It has nothing to do with where the Echo is or an ally next to the target. But as you state later ,"All that out of the way, wow, Echo Knight can be really damned great with a Rogue because attacking an enemy while [B]you[/B] are hidden gives you advantage on the attack. Your echo isn't you. So sit back in the shadows and let your echo do the work." Yes, that is what I was talking about. If I hide - as in me in my physical body - then "When a creature can't see you, you have advantage on attack rolls against it." I can make that attack originate from the Echo's space instead of my own, "When you take the Attack action on your turn, any attack you make with that action can originate from your space or the echo’s space. You make this choice for each attack. " So the target cannot see me because I am hidden. So my attack should have advantage, and I am just changing the origination spot where the attack comes from. Oh sure I was not thinking about making attacks through a wall with that trick. I was thinking about essentially teleporting using that trick. Switching places with the Echo on the other side of a door which was placed there by being able to see through the eyes of the familiar. Particularly useful if there is a crack in a window on the second story that's still within 15' of my real body. Now that I had not considered. Interesting. See now this is the sort of devious mind I wanted working on this problem! [/QUOTE]

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