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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7977437" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, I can buy that, it's not even close to RAW, just as a note (which I don't think is "for idiots" anywhere near as much as "totally ignoring RAW" is "for idiots" - about 70% of the the silliest and/or most perverse rulings I've seen are from ignoring/not understanding RAW* - the other 30% are following it ruthlessly). I think it actually makes the Echo significantly more powerful than allowing the Hide-Attack-Hide-Attack-Hide-etc. sequence proposed by Mistwell.What about the Echo provoking OAs? By your logic here it would seem that it could, but I'm pretty sure the design is based on it not doing so.* = The classic being "I made up this rule to cover this problem that only exists because I didn't understand the rules!". Not to be rude, but your Familiar ruling is in this category.</blockquote>