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<blockquote data-quote="BobTheNob" data-source="post: 6047323" data-attributes="member: 82425">and I would never advocate taking that away.When I put forward this idea, I was not trying to say that the rogue was the only one that could improvise, just that he had extra tricks for getting it done.I have one guy I play with and he was really flat on 4e. He is the one whom always tries to think outside the square, and by his own admission, he found 4e too structured for the type of game he wanted to play. Sure, there was always the disclaimer that you didnt have to follow the rules all the time, and wherever possible I bent the rules to accommodate.Then I read FATE and thought to myself &quot;Thats interesting, we have a game where improvising isnt the exception to the rules...its the norm&quot; and I thought of the rogue. This is always how I have seen the rogue = fast thinking, adaptable, he doesnt cnfront problems, he gets around them. Then I thought, what about that player, he would LOVE something like this and I put it all together, hence why I posted this idea.For the record, I also wouldnt suggest this replaces the &quot;damage spiker&quot;. Though I find that a very one-dimensional definition of the rogues (combat) purpose, Im just trying to find an extension on this that isnt &quot;fighter light&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BobTheNob, post: 6047323, member: 82425"] and I would never advocate taking that away. When I put forward this idea, I was not trying to say that the rogue was the only one that could improvise, just that he had extra tricks for getting it done. I have one guy I play with and he was really flat on 4e. He is the one whom always tries to think outside the square, and by his own admission, he found 4e too structured for the type of game he wanted to play. Sure, there was always the disclaimer that you didnt have to follow the rules all the time, and wherever possible I bent the rules to accommodate. Then I read FATE and thought to myself "Thats interesting, we have a game where improvising isnt the exception to the rules...its the norm" and I thought of the rogue. This is always how I have seen the rogue = fast thinking, adaptable, he doesnt cnfront problems, he gets around them. Then I thought, what about that player, he would LOVE something like this and I put it all together, hence why I posted this idea. For the record, I also wouldnt suggest this replaces the "damage spiker". Though I find that a very one-dimensional definition of the rogues (combat) purpose, Im just trying to find an extension on this that isnt "fighter light". [/QUOTE]

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