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<blockquote data-quote="DarkelvenSFi" data-source="post: 4786353" data-attributes="member: 82911"><p>I've got similar problems (almost identical; first time player, wanting to Rogue (due to WoW) and alongside similar level characters, doesn't stand a chance).</p><p></p><p>But he's tried furiously to see find ways around his handycaps.</p><p></p><p>The most recent was devastating. He managed to buy a Blindfold of True Darkness (9,000gp, Magic Item Compendium). Which gives him blindsight (see even in a darkness spell). Then he gets our cleric to cast darkness on a rock, sticks it in him mouth, and in combat simply smiles to let the darkness out (likely smiling from glee too). His enemies cannot see, lose their dex bonus to AC, and he then can sneak attack them without mercy. </p><p></p><p>This was all worked out just in time for him to be alone (rest of the party was sleeping) when a group of 8 Naga attacked the boat. By the time the group woke up and put on our armour and weapons, he'd killed them all. Well.. not entirely true; the druid in the group managed a 5-times critical roll to kill the last one outright (scimitar crit range 15-20); amazing to see.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Other options are the Shadow Dancer PrC (DMG and Epic Level Handbook) which allows him to jump across shadows (easily get into flanking position, and escape if necessary). Plus the Evasion and Improved Evasion to avoid all damage from most area affect spells. He's also spoken of a feat that will eventually allow him to roll all Fort saving throws as Reflex instead (at least I think it was Fort). Someone here will know what it is, or I can ask him. </p><p></p><p>Focus on your Dex ability, get a weapon finesse and rapier; use your Dex mod for the melee weapon (rather than Str) attack rolls. Allows a greater chance to hit, decent crit range, and with a keen edge or Improved Critical (feat), and he'll be taking out some more high powered creatures a bit easier.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, as a Rogue, you're focusing on magical items to compensate for a large lack in compat power. I'd recommend he multiclass with a Druid. It'll improve his saves, HitDice, and expand on many of his interests with the Rogue; as an example, he can eventually turn into a giant octupus and have 8 sneak attacks against a foe (provided he can hold his breath for as long as the battle lasts). A range of the Druid spells also distract opponents which is great for sneak attacks.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkelvenSFi, post: 4786353, member: 82911"] I've got similar problems (almost identical; first time player, wanting to Rogue (due to WoW) and alongside similar level characters, doesn't stand a chance). But he's tried furiously to see find ways around his handycaps. The most recent was devastating. He managed to buy a Blindfold of True Darkness (9,000gp, Magic Item Compendium). Which gives him blindsight (see even in a darkness spell). Then he gets our cleric to cast darkness on a rock, sticks it in him mouth, and in combat simply smiles to let the darkness out (likely smiling from glee too). His enemies cannot see, lose their dex bonus to AC, and he then can sneak attack them without mercy. This was all worked out just in time for him to be alone (rest of the party was sleeping) when a group of 8 Naga attacked the boat. By the time the group woke up and put on our armour and weapons, he'd killed them all. Well.. not entirely true; the druid in the group managed a 5-times critical roll to kill the last one outright (scimitar crit range 15-20); amazing to see. Other options are the Shadow Dancer PrC (DMG and Epic Level Handbook) which allows him to jump across shadows (easily get into flanking position, and escape if necessary). Plus the Evasion and Improved Evasion to avoid all damage from most area affect spells. He's also spoken of a feat that will eventually allow him to roll all Fort saving throws as Reflex instead (at least I think it was Fort). Someone here will know what it is, or I can ask him. Focus on your Dex ability, get a weapon finesse and rapier; use your Dex mod for the melee weapon (rather than Str) attack rolls. Allows a greater chance to hit, decent crit range, and with a keen edge or Improved Critical (feat), and he'll be taking out some more high powered creatures a bit easier. Otherwise, as a Rogue, you're focusing on magical items to compensate for a large lack in compat power. I'd recommend he multiclass with a Druid. It'll improve his saves, HitDice, and expand on many of his interests with the Rogue; as an example, he can eventually turn into a giant octupus and have 8 sneak attacks against a foe (provided he can hold his breath for as long as the battle lasts). A range of the Druid spells also distract opponents which is great for sneak attacks. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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