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<blockquote data-quote="Alex Ramirez" data-source="post: 7243764" data-attributes="member: 6908232">Hey guys, I love the honest and critical reviews of builds/questions I see on here so i am hoping someone can help me out with a multiclassing issue I've come up with. The general question boils down to which of two options provides a better return in the long term: one extra sneak attack die for the rogue, or an ASI. I know a lot of this may depend on the specifics of the situation, which are outlined below, but I wanted to put the tl;dr up front for people.DETAILSA game I joined recently is a homebrew campaign, and the DM has allowed me to replace the STR 13 requirement for multiclassing a Paladin with a DEX 13 requirement instead. I have an idea for a Oath of the Crown Paladin / Swashbuckler Rogue PC with an engaging backstory I feel I could get into. As I'm looking to build this character, however, I am unsure of whether I want to go Paladin 6 / Rogue 14, or Paladin 8 / Rogue 12. I have provided a table that indicates what I'm giving up in either situation:[TABLE=&quot;width: 600&quot;][TR][TD][/TD][TD]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Paladin 6 / Rogue 14[/TD][TD] Paladin 8 / Rogue 12[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Paladin Gets[/TD][TD][/TD][TD]&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Divine Allegiance[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Rogue Gets[/TD][TD]Advantage on Athletics/Acrobatics&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10 ft Blindsight[/TD][TD][/TD][/TR][TR][TD]Sneak Attack[/TD][TD]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7[/TD][TD]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]ASI[/TD][TD]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5[/TD][TD]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]I definitely understand that Elegant Maneuver and Blindsense are amazing, and on top of that I get 7d6 Sneak Attack; Divine Allegiance in the other column, in my opinion, just doesn't stack up to that. The upside to putting two more levels into Paladin is that I get a 6th ASI (Rogue 4, 8, 10, 12 / Paladin 4, 8) on a character who needs Charisma, Dexterity, and Constitution as high as he can get them.MORE DETAILS (if necessary)I plan to start with Paladin so he'll get the medium armor proficiency at level 1, and his starting stats as a Half-Elf are below:[TABLE=&quot;width: 500&quot;][TR][TD]STR 10[/TD][TD]DEX 16[/TD][TD]CON 14[/TD][TD]INT 10[/TD][TD]WIS 10[/TD][TD]CHA 16[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]I intend for him to use a rapier and a shield, with Medium Armor Mastery and the Defense fighting style in Half Plate for 17 +3(DEX) +2(Shield) +1(Defense) and stand at 23 AC.Does the d6 extra damage output outstrip the ASI? Thanks in advance for any advice I can get, and for reading through all that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alex Ramirez, post: 7243764, member: 6908232"] Hey guys, I love the honest and critical reviews of builds/questions I see on here so i am hoping someone can help me out with a multiclassing issue I've come up with. The general question boils down to which of two options provides a better return in the long term: one extra sneak attack die for the rogue, or an ASI. I know a lot of this may depend on the specifics of the situation, which are outlined below, but I wanted to put the tl;dr up front for people. DETAILS A game I joined recently is a homebrew campaign, and the DM has allowed me to replace the STR 13 requirement for multiclassing a Paladin with a DEX 13 requirement instead. I have an idea for a Oath of the Crown Paladin / Swashbuckler Rogue PC with an engaging backstory I feel I could get into. As I'm looking to build this character, however, I am unsure of whether I want to go Paladin 6 / Rogue 14, or Paladin 8 / Rogue 12. I have provided a table that indicates what I'm giving up in either situation: [TABLE="width: 600"] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD] Paladin 6 / Rogue 14[/TD] [TD] Paladin 8 / Rogue 12[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Paladin Gets[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD] Divine Allegiance[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Rogue Gets[/TD] [TD]Advantage on Athletics/Acrobatics 10 ft Blindsight[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sneak Attack[/TD] [TD] 7[/TD] [TD] 6[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]ASI[/TD] [TD] 5[/TD] [TD] 6[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] I definitely understand that Elegant Maneuver and Blindsense are amazing, and on top of that I get 7d6 Sneak Attack; Divine Allegiance in the other column, in my opinion, just doesn't stack up to that. The upside to putting two more levels into Paladin is that I get a 6th ASI (Rogue 4, 8, 10, 12 / Paladin 4, 8) on a character who needs Charisma, Dexterity, and Constitution as high as he can get them. MORE DETAILS (if necessary) I plan to start with Paladin so he'll get the medium armor proficiency at level 1, and his starting stats as a Half-Elf are below: [TABLE="width: 500"] [TR] [TD]STR 10[/TD] [TD]DEX 16[/TD] [TD]CON 14[/TD] [TD]INT 10[/TD] [TD]WIS 10[/TD] [TD]CHA 16[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] I intend for him to use a rapier and a shield, with Medium Armor Mastery and the Defense fighting style in Half Plate for 17 +3(DEX) +2(Shield) +1(Defense) and stand at 23 AC. Does the d6 extra damage output outstrip the ASI? Thanks in advance for any advice I can get, and for reading through all that. [/QUOTE]

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