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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 6980201" data-attributes="member: 58416">That's a fair point.&nbsp; Still, even by those standards, it was a little hard to buy.&nbsp; The lack of structure in the first 30 minutes or so of the movie didn't help either.&nbsp; While a lot of the locations looked cool, they served no purpose, and they were done so quickly that they felt more like excuses to justify needing a big budget than they felt like they added anything to the story.I'll buy that they'd maybe walk toward him the first time or two.&nbsp; But then to just stand there and get beat down?&nbsp; I'm aware that similar tropes happen in kung-fu movies (and even some sci-fi movies), but I felt that it was poorly choreographed. For me personally, it did more to hurt the movie and the character than it helped.&nbsp; To be fair, it's likely that my own military experience in similar situations hurt some of my ability to ignore certain things.Jyn being a good fighter is not in doubt.&nbsp; It's simply hard (for me) to understand why she's necessary as a character.&nbsp; She didn't appear to have any more information than what others already had, and I'm inclined to believe that -especially since everyone got killed anyway- the time devoted to her would have been better spent on other parts of the story.&nbsp; She's only relevant because of the thin connection that she has to the motivations of two other characters.&nbsp;&nbsp; If the intent was to aim for a war movie feel, I think the story would have been better served by extracting the information from the pilot and delving into the dark and dirty details of the Rebels needing to embrace some of their less desirable elements.&nbsp; If the intent was to aim for a Star Wars movie feel, I think using the movie to illustrate and highlight a few parts of the setting and universe rather than the cinematic speed-dating that seemed to be done with people, places, things, and droids.&nbsp; Sigh... I suppose I should drop it.&nbsp; I respect the right of others to like the movie.&nbsp; It certainly wouldn't be the first time that I was in the minority.&nbsp; I didn't think the third Hobbit movie was particularly good either (I'd actually say that I enjoyed Rogue One more.)&nbsp; It just blows my mind a little when I see a commercial on tv which exclaims &quot;Best Star Wars movie ever!&quot;&nbsp; I am struggling to comprehend whether or not I was watching the same movie.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 6980201, member: 58416"] That's a fair point. Still, even by those standards, it was a little hard to buy. The lack of structure in the first 30 minutes or so of the movie didn't help either. While a lot of the locations looked cool, they served no purpose, and they were done so quickly that they felt more like excuses to justify needing a big budget than they felt like they added anything to the story. I'll buy that they'd maybe walk toward him the first time or two. But then to just stand there and get beat down? I'm aware that similar tropes happen in kung-fu movies (and even some sci-fi movies), but I felt that it was poorly choreographed. For me personally, it did more to hurt the movie and the character than it helped. To be fair, it's likely that my own military experience in similar situations hurt some of my ability to ignore certain things. Jyn being a good fighter is not in doubt. It's simply hard (for me) to understand why she's necessary as a character. She didn't appear to have any more information than what others already had, and I'm inclined to believe that -especially since everyone got killed anyway- the time devoted to her would have been better spent on other parts of the story. She's only relevant because of the thin connection that she has to the motivations of two other characters. If the intent was to aim for a war movie feel, I think the story would have been better served by extracting the information from the pilot and delving into the dark and dirty details of the Rebels needing to embrace some of their less desirable elements. If the intent was to aim for a Star Wars movie feel, I think using the movie to illustrate and highlight a few parts of the setting and universe rather than the cinematic speed-dating that seemed to be done with people, places, things, and droids. Sigh... I suppose I should drop it. I respect the right of others to like the movie. It certainly wouldn't be the first time that I was in the minority. I didn't think the third Hobbit movie was particularly good either (I'd actually say that I enjoyed Rogue One more.) It just blows my mind a little when I see a commercial on tv which exclaims "Best Star Wars movie ever!" I am struggling to comprehend whether or not I was watching the same movie. [/QUOTE]

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