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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5344417" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>As I think about it, I believe MrMyth has it right, in that it is a poorly worded/ordered power.</p><p></p><p>A 'hit' in the Compendium is defined as an attack roll that equals or exceeds the defense score of the target. So the completion of the Attack: line in a power is what constitutes a 'hit'... not the location of where the Hit: line in the power appears. So putting an Effect: line before the Hit: (ie damage) line in order to imply that while you don't have Combat Advantage for the Attack (thus no +2), you do have it for the damage roll (thus gaining Sneak Attack)... is a noble attempt to make the power look "clean"... but does not actually follow the rules they have set up as far as power design.</p><p></p><p>The Hit: line should basically always appear directly after the Attack: line, so as to not confuse the issue. And any adds or adjustments to the damage/result of the attack should be listed within the Hit: line itself, not attempted to be gained via Effect lines.</p><p></p><p>Thus I'd go with MrMyth's first example as a properly worded power:</p><p></p><p>Attack: Dex vs. AC</p><p>Hit: 2[w]+Dex, and the target is knocked prone. You may apply Sneak Attack damage on this attack even if you did not have Combat Advantage before the attack.</p><p></p><p>This layout may not "look" like what the fluff description is trying to imply... but adding an Effect: line before a Hit: line does not / should not change or add to what the Hit: line says.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5344417, member: 7006"] As I think about it, I believe MrMyth has it right, in that it is a poorly worded/ordered power. A 'hit' in the Compendium is defined as an attack roll that equals or exceeds the defense score of the target. So the completion of the Attack: line in a power is what constitutes a 'hit'... not the location of where the Hit: line in the power appears. So putting an Effect: line before the Hit: (ie damage) line in order to imply that while you don't have Combat Advantage for the Attack (thus no +2), you do have it for the damage roll (thus gaining Sneak Attack)... is a noble attempt to make the power look "clean"... but does not actually follow the rules they have set up as far as power design. The Hit: line should basically always appear directly after the Attack: line, so as to not confuse the issue. And any adds or adjustments to the damage/result of the attack should be listed within the Hit: line itself, not attempted to be gained via Effect lines. Thus I'd go with MrMyth's first example as a properly worded power: Attack: Dex vs. AC Hit: 2[w]+Dex, and the target is knocked prone. You may apply Sneak Attack damage on this attack even if you did not have Combat Advantage before the attack. This layout may not "look" like what the fluff description is trying to imply... but adding an Effect: line before a Hit: line does not / should not change or add to what the Hit: line says. [/QUOTE]
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