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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5344721" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>I must concur with Draco on his ruling (as per Rules of Thumb 1 & 2) of how RAW this power should be adjudicated. No Sneak Attack damage dice granted when rolling damage, because the attacker did not have CA at the time they hit with the attack.</p><p></p><p>Now that being said... I'm curious then as to what the reason was for putting the Effect: line above the Hit: line? Is the only purpose that Draco's right with his thought that this is a way to stop defensive shifts upon receiving damage? I suppose that could be it... however it seems like such an infrequent ability monsters have that it's hard to fathom why they'd bother? How many monsters have that ability?</p><p></p><p>That's why I wonder (as the fluff text would seem to indicate) that indeed the intent was to knock a person prone and then do major damage to them with an attack to the vitals (ie Sneak Attack)? And if that's the case, then indeed they'd need to rewrite the power.</p><p></p><p>I put it to you folks... does a monster who has the ability to shift upon receiving damage as an immediate interrupt (thereby negating the damage) occur often enough to explain why WotC'd bother to write the power this way just to make sure the monster couldn't use? Or does the 'No CA On Attack Roll But SA On Damage Roll' make more sense as a worthwhile ability?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 5344721, member: 7006"] I must concur with Draco on his ruling (as per Rules of Thumb 1 & 2) of how RAW this power should be adjudicated. No Sneak Attack damage dice granted when rolling damage, because the attacker did not have CA at the time they hit with the attack. Now that being said... I'm curious then as to what the reason was for putting the Effect: line above the Hit: line? Is the only purpose that Draco's right with his thought that this is a way to stop defensive shifts upon receiving damage? I suppose that could be it... however it seems like such an infrequent ability monsters have that it's hard to fathom why they'd bother? How many monsters have that ability? That's why I wonder (as the fluff text would seem to indicate) that indeed the intent was to knock a person prone and then do major damage to them with an attack to the vitals (ie Sneak Attack)? And if that's the case, then indeed they'd need to rewrite the power. I put it to you folks... does a monster who has the ability to shift upon receiving damage as an immediate interrupt (thereby negating the damage) occur often enough to explain why WotC'd bother to write the power this way just to make sure the monster couldn't use? Or does the 'No CA On Attack Roll But SA On Damage Roll' make more sense as a worthwhile ability? [/QUOTE]
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