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<blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 5345376" data-attributes="member: 65152">I don't think what you're implying is correct, but I can't find it in the compendium and I'm not at home to look at my books.&nbsp; I was pretty sure that &quot;order&quot; has to do with the entries of a power such as &quot;Hit&quot;, &quot;Miss&quot;, &quot;Effect&quot;, and &quot;Special&quot;, but within an entry the &quot;order&quot; didn't matter or was irrelevant.&nbsp; You're in the step where you are evaluating Hit or Miss after the target is knocked prone.&nbsp; The only requirements are (as quoted above) that you hit and you have CA.&nbsp; I don't see any verbiage that says you are required to have combat advantage before you ROLL to hit.This particular power has:Attack: number vs defenseEffect: knock proneHit: damageAt the point where you evaluate &quot;Hit&quot; you have CA and thus get sneak damage (unless as I said above the ordering is a typo).&nbsp; If it was not intended to work this way they could just as easily have said Effect: Before the attack you knock the target prone ORHit: damageEffect: knock proneORHit: damage and knock proneMiss: knock proneFor the first you would have CA for both the attack and damage portions of the power and for the other two you clearly would not have it for either.&nbsp; Since they used none of these the only possible interpretation left is as I described.To quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle:&quot;When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CovertOps, post: 5345376, member: 65152"] I don't think what you're implying is correct, but I can't find it in the compendium and I'm not at home to look at my books. I was pretty sure that "order" has to do with the entries of a power such as "Hit", "Miss", "Effect", and "Special", but within an entry the "order" didn't matter or was irrelevant. You're in the step where you are evaluating Hit or Miss after the target is knocked prone. The only requirements are (as quoted above) that you hit and you have CA. I don't see any verbiage that says you are required to have combat advantage before you ROLL to hit. This particular power has: Attack: number vs defense Effect: knock prone Hit: damage At the point where you evaluate "Hit" you have CA and thus get sneak damage (unless as I said above the ordering is a typo). If it was not intended to work this way they could just as easily have said Effect: Before the attack you knock the target prone OR Hit: damage Effect: knock prone OR Hit: damage and knock prone Miss: knock prone For the first you would have CA for both the attack and damage portions of the power and for the other two you clearly would not have it for either. Since they used none of these the only possible interpretation left is as I described. To quote Sir Arthur Conan Doyle: "When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." [/QUOTE]

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