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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 5345465" data-attributes="member: 65152">I'm going to hold off responding until I get home DS.  I want to review the attack resolution order from p 269-276 and can't without my books.  I know this weighed heavily in that huge debate about the double's rule for that Avenger's PP (critical) feature.Your basic assertion is that in order to apply sneak attack damage you must have combat advantage by the time you roll to hit.  My assertion is that you don't check the SA requirements until you're trying to add it to your damage.As a note, SA does not have any such requirement that you must have CA when you roll to hit.  That is simply your interpretation.  It's requirements are:#5 really reads to me that you get to determine when you're rolling damage if you are eligible to apply the extra damage or not.  You could be rolling damage for an attack that missed and would therefore not be eligible.  In this case you hit, and you have CA (granted after you rolled to hit, but before you apply the hit, but nonetheless).Just so I'm clear.  I don't see anything specific about WHEN you determine you're eligible to apply sneak attack damage in the specific sneak attack rules.  If you disagree with this assessment then I don't need to review the general rules at all as that is the part we disagree on.  IMO (without my books) you determine eligibility for sneak damage when you apply other modifiers to damage (p276 or 277) such as feats, class features, items, etc. or as I said in the previous paragraph "after the damage roll" as stipulated by the SA rules.</blockquote>

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