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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 5871765" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I will second what [MENTION=87792]Neonchameleon[/MENTION] said: with an archer ranger it is pretty hard to go wrong. Take Twin Strike, take as many immediate attack encounter powers as you can get, point and shoot.</p><p></p><p>And given that you'll have a high DEX, you'll be good at Stealth.</p><p></p><p>I also agree with Neonchameleon's comments on multi-classing. Multiclassing just means spending a feat to get a skill and a fairly modest new ability related to the relevant class. (There are multi-classing options to spend feats to open up new power options, but I wouldn't bother with them.) The skill increases your versatility, and the ability - like the 1x/day heal from multi-classing cleric or warlord, or the 1x/enc bonus to hit if you multi-class fighter, or the 1x/enc bonus damage if you multi-class ranger - just gives you a little extra edge.</p><p></p><p>One of the players in my group plays a hybyrid ranger-cleric. He started out playing an archer ranger with a multi-class cleric feat, and then when PHB3 came out he rebuilt his PC from the ground up as a hybrid. His motivation was (i) the party didn't have a leader, and he though some more healing would be useful, and (ii) he found the archer ranger a bit boring to play - it really is a pretty simple "point and shoot" class.</p><p></p><p>But being a ranger-cleric does reduce his damage output a bit, and make the PC a bit more mechanically fiddly. Whether that's an issue or not depends a bit on who you're playing with. Are you playing with friends who approach the game in a laidback way and will be happy for you to play the PC you want to play even if it's not the most mechincally optimal it might be? And does ranger-cleric appeal to you as a PC concept? Then maybe get the online builder, or find a copy of PHB3, and build a ranger-cleric.</p><p></p><p>But are you playing with hardnosed players who will beat you around the head if they think your PC isn't fully optimised, and with a GM who is going to throw punishing encounters at you without regard to the particular PCs you've built and your particular desires to play a slightly quirky character? Then build a straight-down-the-line ranger or rogue, and don't both with hybriding.</p><p></p><p><strong>TL;DR</strong>: there is a big difference between multi-classing and hybriding. MC is just spending a feat to get a skill + perk. Hybriding is really changing the build of your character from the ground up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 5871765, member: 42582"] I will second what [MENTION=87792]Neonchameleon[/MENTION] said: with an archer ranger it is pretty hard to go wrong. Take Twin Strike, take as many immediate attack encounter powers as you can get, point and shoot. And given that you'll have a high DEX, you'll be good at Stealth. I also agree with Neonchameleon's comments on multi-classing. Multiclassing just means spending a feat to get a skill and a fairly modest new ability related to the relevant class. (There are multi-classing options to spend feats to open up new power options, but I wouldn't bother with them.) The skill increases your versatility, and the ability - like the 1x/day heal from multi-classing cleric or warlord, or the 1x/enc bonus to hit if you multi-class fighter, or the 1x/enc bonus damage if you multi-class ranger - just gives you a little extra edge. One of the players in my group plays a hybyrid ranger-cleric. He started out playing an archer ranger with a multi-class cleric feat, and then when PHB3 came out he rebuilt his PC from the ground up as a hybrid. His motivation was (i) the party didn't have a leader, and he though some more healing would be useful, and (ii) he found the archer ranger a bit boring to play - it really is a pretty simple "point and shoot" class. But being a ranger-cleric does reduce his damage output a bit, and make the PC a bit more mechanically fiddly. Whether that's an issue or not depends a bit on who you're playing with. Are you playing with friends who approach the game in a laidback way and will be happy for you to play the PC you want to play even if it's not the most mechincally optimal it might be? And does ranger-cleric appeal to you as a PC concept? Then maybe get the online builder, or find a copy of PHB3, and build a ranger-cleric. But are you playing with hardnosed players who will beat you around the head if they think your PC isn't fully optimised, and with a GM who is going to throw punishing encounters at you without regard to the particular PCs you've built and your particular desires to play a slightly quirky character? Then build a straight-down-the-line ranger or rogue, and don't both with hybriding. [B]TL;DR[/B]: there is a big difference between multi-classing and hybriding. MC is just spending a feat to get a skill + perk. Hybriding is really changing the build of your character from the ground up. [/QUOTE]
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