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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gorgoroth" data-source="post: 5872628" data-attributes="member: 6674889">since youare noobish, and avoiding hybrid, why bother explaining how BCL Clerics are vastly superior to almost any other hybrid + ranger option.Let's say you want to be a light-ly armored skirmisher/switch hitter, who can still shoot a bow decently. A human, say, or a half-orc. Pick up at level 1 TWF technique and hobbling strike, or a double weapon and wait for paragon for prime shot + prime punisher and focus on other feats first. (Cunning stalker, for example. Or superior will/fort/imp defenses). At level 1 you'd have 13+3+2 in hide armor = 18, with speed 6, or you could have speed 5 in scale with AC 19. At level 1. For no investment in feats. You can grab all immediate action or minor action cleric powers, meaning your dpr doesn't go down much since a ranger is mostly twin-striking + minor striking as often as possible, as others have said. At paragon you can go morninglord for insane DPR, or go the frost + prime punisher route + Pathfinder PP for insane durability. By level 16, when hide armor + 16 dex + boosts gives the same AC as scale, you can do that or invest in scale spec to get your speed back. I looked into using Hunter as a str-only guy, or an o-ranger with Rapid Shot and using like a waraxe in each hand (even better as a dwarf). Those are all pretty decent. But Thief tricks are nice to use out of combat, and since I complain a lot about 4e being so combat-centric, perhaps I should just drop it now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ps ranger | BCL cleric is one of the most optimal striker hybrids out there, IMO. esp dwarves. practically unkillable with very good damage too.</blockquote>

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