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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5192745" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>This gets into some unanswered questions about 4e rules. Remember, there is an <strong>Attack:</strong> line that actually describes what happens when you roll to-hit. The <strong>Hit:</strong> line deals with damage.</p><p></p><p>So the real question has to do with state transitions in 4e. Consider, the target is NOT prone and thus not granting CA when the attack is announced and the to-hit roll is made (assuming the Attack: line came first). Thus you didn't have CA at that point and couldn't get the +2 to-hit bonus for CA.</p><p></p><p>Second the target is knocked prone. Now it can grant CA, but does that happen instantly? Does it even matter? Do you have to have CA from the start of using the power to get Sneak Attack damage? We don't know. The rules simply do not tell us how these kinds of transitions work or what happens when states change in the middle of resolving a power.</p><p></p><p>It will be entirely up to the DM. I might note however that there are very few powers that do this kind of thing, probably for exactly this sort of reason, they always create ambiguities. A lot of feats can also create similar issues.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5192745, member: 82106"] This gets into some unanswered questions about 4e rules. Remember, there is an [b]Attack:[/b] line that actually describes what happens when you roll to-hit. The [b]Hit:[/b] line deals with damage. So the real question has to do with state transitions in 4e. Consider, the target is NOT prone and thus not granting CA when the attack is announced and the to-hit roll is made (assuming the Attack: line came first). Thus you didn't have CA at that point and couldn't get the +2 to-hit bonus for CA. Second the target is knocked prone. Now it can grant CA, but does that happen instantly? Does it even matter? Do you have to have CA from the start of using the power to get Sneak Attack damage? We don't know. The rules simply do not tell us how these kinds of transitions work or what happens when states change in the middle of resolving a power. It will be entirely up to the DM. I might note however that there are very few powers that do this kind of thing, probably for exactly this sort of reason, they always create ambiguities. A lot of feats can also create similar issues. [/QUOTE]
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