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<blockquote data-quote="Griffonslayer" data-source="post: 6418202" data-attributes="member: 96811"><p>I love playing Rogues, but I love the idea of the Eidolon class feature, specifically the Fused Eidolon of the Synthesist archetype. I wanted thoughts on how powerful you thought the this melding would be. To me the eidolon, without the summoner's spellcasting, is going to be fairly weak in late game; which is the only reason I left in some of the Sneak Attack damage. Is it too powerful? Any changes you would make if someone asked for one of your games?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hit die: d8</p><p>Skill Ranks: 8+Int</p><p>Skills: Same as Rogue</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Fused Eidolon (Synthesist Archetype), Fused link, trapfinding</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sneak attack +1d6, trap sense +1</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Shielded Meld</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sneak attack +2d6</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Maker's Jump, trap sense +3</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sneak attack +3d6</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Greater Shielded Meld</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sneak attack +4d6, trap sense +5</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Split Forms</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr><tr><td>Sneak attack +5d6</td></tr><tr><td></td></tr></table><p>[TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Level[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #CFE2F3, align: center"]Base Attack Bonus[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Fort Save[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Ref Save[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Will Save[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #CFE2F3"]Special[/TD] [TD="align: center"]1st[/TD][TD="align: center"]+0[/TD][TD="align: center"]0[/TD][TD="align: center"]2[/TD][TD="align: center"]0[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2nd[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]0[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]0[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Evasion, rogue talent[/TD] [TD="align: center"]3rd[/TD][TD="align: center"]+2[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, uncanny dodge[/TD] [TD="align: center"]5th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+3[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD][TD="align: center"]4[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, trap sense +2[/TD] [TD="align: center"]7th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+5[/TD][TD="align: center"]2[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD="align: center"]2[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]8th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+6/+1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Improved uncanny dodge, rogue talent[/TD] [TD="align: center"]9th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+6/+1[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD="align: center"]6[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]10th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+7/+2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]7[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Advanced talents, rogue talent[/TD] [TD="align: center"]11th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+8/+3[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD="align: center"]7[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]12th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+9/+4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]8[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, trap sense +4[/TD] [TD="align: center"]13th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+9/+4[/TD][TD="align: center"]4[/TD][TD="align: center"]8[/TD][TD="align: center"]4[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]14th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+10/+5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]9[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent[/TD] [TD="align: center"]15th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+11/+6/+1[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD="align: center"]9[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]16th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+12/+7/+2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]10[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent[/TD] [TD="align: center"]17th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+12/+7/+2[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD="align: center"]10[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]18th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+13/+8/+3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]11[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, trap sense +6[/TD] [TD="align: center"]19th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+14/+9/+4[/TD][TD="align: center"]6[/TD][TD="align: center"]11[/TD][TD="align: center"]6[/TD] [TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]20th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+15/+10/+5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]12[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Master strike, rogue talent[/TD]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Griffonslayer, post: 6418202, member: 96811"] I love playing Rogues, but I love the idea of the Eidolon class feature, specifically the Fused Eidolon of the Synthesist archetype. I wanted thoughts on how powerful you thought the this melding would be. To me the eidolon, without the summoner's spellcasting, is going to be fairly weak in late game; which is the only reason I left in some of the Sneak Attack damage. Is it too powerful? Any changes you would make if someone asked for one of your games? Hit die: d8 Skill Ranks: 8+Int Skills: Same as Rogue [TABLE][TR][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Level[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #CFE2F3, align: center"]Base Attack Bonus[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Fort Save[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Ref Save[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #cfe2f3, align: center"]Will Save[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #CFE2F3"]Special[/TD][/TR][TR][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]1st[/TD][TD="align: center"]+0[/TD][TD="align: center"]0[/TD][TD="align: center"]2[/TD][TD="align: center"]0[/TD][TD]Fused Eidolon (Synthesist Archetype), Fused link, trapfinding[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2nd[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]0[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]0[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Evasion, rogue talent[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]3rd[/TD][TD="align: center"]+2[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD][TD]Sneak attack +1d6, trap sense +1[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, uncanny dodge[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]5th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+3[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD][TD="align: center"]4[/TD][TD="align: center"]1[/TD][TD]Shielded Meld[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, trap sense +2[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]7th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+5[/TD][TD="align: center"]2[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD="align: center"]2[/TD][TD]Sneak attack +2d6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]8th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+6/+1[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Improved uncanny dodge, rogue talent[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]9th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+6/+1[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD="align: center"]6[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD]Maker's Jump, trap sense +3[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]10th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+7/+2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]7[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Advanced talents, rogue talent[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]11th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+8/+3[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD="align: center"]7[/TD][TD="align: center"]3[/TD][TD]Sneak attack +3d6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]12th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+9/+4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]8[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, trap sense +4[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]13th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+9/+4[/TD][TD="align: center"]4[/TD][TD="align: center"]8[/TD][TD="align: center"]4[/TD][TD]Greater Shielded Meld[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]14th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+10/+5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]9[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]4[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]15th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+11/+6/+1[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD="align: center"]9[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD]Sneak attack +4d6, trap sense +5[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]16th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+12/+7/+2[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]10[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]17th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+12/+7/+2[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD="align: center"]10[/TD][TD="align: center"]5[/TD][TD]Split Forms[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]18th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+13/+8/+3[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]11[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Rogue talent, trap sense +6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="align: center"]19th[/TD][TD="align: center"]+14/+9/+4[/TD][TD="align: center"]6[/TD][TD="align: center"]11[/TD][TD="align: center"]6[/TD][TD]Sneak attack +5d6[/TD][/TR][TR][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]20th[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]+15/+10/+5[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]12[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3, align: center"]6[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #f3f3f3"]Master strike, rogue talent[/TD][/TR][/TABLE] [/QUOTE]
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