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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 368571" data-attributes="member: 3146">&quot;If the attacker is capable of striking ethereal or incorporeal creatures, the miss chance is only 20% (for 1/2 concealment). If the attacker can see invisible creatures, the miss chance is only 20%. If the attacker can both see and strike ethereal creatures, he suffers no penalty. Likewise, your own attacks suffer a 20% miss chance since you sometimes go ethereal just as you are about to strike.&quot;So, it looks like I was half wrong here. A strict reading of the text would indicate that blur grants 50% concealment (negated by detect invisibility or the ability to see ethereal creatures) and 50% incorporeality (which functions like and stacks with concealment).Consequently, a blinking character may not be sneak attacked by anything that cannot see invisible or ethereal creatures (because of the concealment).On the other hand, since his opponents do not have the effective half concealment from him but only effective 50% incorporeality (which grants the 20% miss chance. Consequently, a blinking rogue may still sneak attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 368571, member: 3146"] "If the attacker is capable of striking ethereal or incorporeal creatures, the miss chance is only 20% (for 1/2 concealment). If the attacker can see invisible creatures, the miss chance is only 20%. If the attacker can both see and strike ethereal creatures, he suffers no penalty. Likewise, your own attacks suffer a 20% miss chance since you sometimes go ethereal just as you are about to strike." So, it looks like I was half wrong here. A strict reading of the text would indicate that blur grants 50% concealment (negated by detect invisibility or the ability to see ethereal creatures) and 50% incorporeality (which functions like and stacks with concealment). Consequently, a blinking character may not be sneak attacked by anything that cannot see invisible or ethereal creatures (because of the concealment). On the other hand, since his opponents do not have the effective half concealment from him but only effective 50% incorporeality (which grants the 20% miss chance. Consequently, a blinking rogue may still sneak attack. [/QUOTE]

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