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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6133183" data-attributes="member: 22424">I don't think it's either - I think the first gives the rule, while the second provides an example. That is, because we rely on sight more than our other senses, blocking line of sight is probably enough to attempt Stealth. But, of course, if you were stupid enough to get into concealment and then shout &quot;Hey! I'm over here!&quot;, that would negate your efforts! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />(Or, perhaps more likely, you might seek out concealment, thus breaking the creature's sight, only to find that it also has tremorsense, or x-ray vision, or some other supernatural sense that prevents Stealth.)Of course, the third sentence allows for the classic &quot;throw a rock to create a distraction&quot; technique... although even that is somewhat problematic - if the guard is observing you even casually, surely he's going to see you throwing the rock. So, really, you would need to be in a hidden position to do it anyway... in which case you could already attempt Stealth. (But, yeah, that's basically what I envisage for that one, with examples being present in many films... &quot;Dungeons &amp; Dragons&quot; being amongst them.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6133183, member: 22424"] I don't [i]think[/i] it's either - I think the first gives the rule, while the second provides an example. That is, because we rely on sight more than our other senses, blocking line of sight is probably enough to attempt Stealth. But, of course, if you were stupid enough to get into concealment and then shout "Hey! I'm over here!", that would negate your efforts! :) (Or, perhaps more likely, you might seek out concealment, thus breaking the creature's sight, only to find that it also has tremorsense, or x-ray vision, or some other supernatural sense that prevents Stealth.) Of course, the third sentence allows for the classic "throw a rock to create a distraction" technique... although even that is somewhat problematic - if the guard is observing you even casually, surely he's going to see you throwing the rock. So, really, you would need to be in a hidden position to do it anyway... in which case you could already attempt Stealth. (But, yeah, that's basically what I envisage for that one, with examples being present in many films... "Dungeons & Dragons" being amongst them.) [/QUOTE]

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