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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7409504" data-attributes="member: 6801845">As [MENTION=6683613]TheCosmicKid[/MENTION] pointed out, you only get the auto crit if the target is surprised.&nbsp; In my experience that doesn't happen all that often so I'm wondering if the player is thinking they always get surprise because they act first?&nbsp; If the target noticed anyone in the party approaching, they are not surprised.One note on two weapon fighting, a main reason for a rogue to use their bonus action to do an off hand attack is because they missed with their primary.&nbsp; So if Sneaky Sam has a +3 proficiency bonus and a +5 dex modifier wielding dual short swords, they are +8 to hit with both weapons but only add the +5 to damage for their primary weapon.&nbsp; On the other hand if they missed with their primary they can still get sneak attack damage with their off-hand weapon.The assassin still gets advantage on both primary and off hand attacks if they are acting before the target creature.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7409504, member: 6801845"] As [MENTION=6683613]TheCosmicKid[/MENTION] pointed out, you only get the auto crit if the target is surprised. In my experience that doesn't happen all that often so I'm wondering if the player is thinking they always get surprise because they act first? If the target noticed anyone in the party approaching, they are not surprised. One note on two weapon fighting, a main reason for a rogue to use their bonus action to do an off hand attack is because they missed with their primary. So if Sneaky Sam has a +3 proficiency bonus and a +5 dex modifier wielding dual short swords, they are +8 to hit with both weapons but only add the +5 to damage for their primary weapon. On the other hand if they missed with their primary they can still get sneak attack damage with their off-hand weapon. The assassin still gets advantage on both primary and off hand attacks if they are acting before the target creature. [/QUOTE]

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