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<blockquote data-quote="Amazing Mumford" data-source="post: 4838010" data-attributes="member: 33976">MichaelK, I would have to say that I do agree with your point-of-view on the matter, logically it makes sense.&nbsp; The others seem to agree on this as well-- that is how I ended up ruling it, but it was a circumstance that quite honestly hadn't come up before (before that, all the traps seemed to have the same trigger/effect point).&nbsp; &nbsp;I do agree that a Rogue can take 20 on a Search, that's pretty plain in the rules-- it does give an average Rogue quite a good chance to find out if anything is trapped, as the DC for detecting traps usually easily be beaten when taking a 20-- I don't think this makes the game unbalanced though, that's the advantage to having a Rogue in the group, so that particular damage can be avoided entirely.&nbsp;As far as taking 10 on a Disable Device check, I think I'm gonna have to side with SKR on this one... but with judicious consideration of &quot;threatened and distracted&quot;... that being said, since most Disable DC's I have seen tend to be higher, the Rogue should be pretty confident in his Take 10 check if he wants to exercise this option...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Amazing Mumford, post: 4838010, member: 33976"] MichaelK, I would have to say that I do agree with your point-of-view on the matter, logically it makes sense. The others seem to agree on this as well-- that is how I ended up ruling it, but it was a circumstance that quite honestly hadn't come up before (before that, all the traps seemed to have the same trigger/effect point). I do agree that a Rogue can take 20 on a Search, that's pretty plain in the rules-- it does give an average Rogue quite a good chance to find out if anything is trapped, as the DC for detecting traps usually easily be beaten when taking a 20-- I don't think this makes the game unbalanced though, that's the advantage to having a Rogue in the group, so that particular damage can be avoided entirely. As far as taking 10 on a Disable Device check, I think I'm gonna have to side with SKR on this one... but with judicious consideration of "threatened and distracted"... that being said, since most Disable DC's I have seen tend to be higher, the Rogue should be pretty confident in his Take 10 check if he wants to exercise this option... [/QUOTE]

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