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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8181862" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I mean, the response to everything you just said is in the post you were quoting. It's not about not knowing where the shooter is at. It's about not knowing where the shot will come from with regard to that cover you're hiding behind.</p><p></p><p>Assume the Barbarian is like a 7 x 5 wall. Mark a 1, 2, 3 down the left side from top to bottom, and then a 4, 5, 6 own the right side. The 1 starts two feet down, 2 starts four feet down, and 3 starts six feet down, and same with the 4, 5, 6 on the other side. So six points, each with about a 2 x 2 space where a crossbow bolt could be shot from. </p><p></p><p>If the rogue were attacking from out in the open, you would know precisely which point from their space the shot is coming from, which means you'd know the angle and the part of you they are targeting, making it easier for you to dodge.</p><p></p><p>However, if the rogue is shooting by popping out from behind that 7x5 wall, you don't know which of the 6 points along the sides of the wall the shot will come from. Even though you know it will come from one of those six points, you don't know which point unlike if the rogue had been out in the open.</p><p></p><p>So it has nothing to do with "unexpected" - you expect the shot you just cannot expect the point the shot will come from.</p><p></p><p>Nor does it strain credulity to believe that "not knowing what point among six points" a shot will come from should provide some advantage to the shooter, since it's more difficult for the target to dodge a shot when they don't know which point (which means which angle and the point on the target it will be directed at) it will come from even though they expect a shot will come from one of those six points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8181862, member: 2525"] I mean, the response to everything you just said is in the post you were quoting. It's not about not knowing where the shooter is at. It's about not knowing where the shot will come from with regard to that cover you're hiding behind. Assume the Barbarian is like a 7 x 5 wall. Mark a 1, 2, 3 down the left side from top to bottom, and then a 4, 5, 6 own the right side. The 1 starts two feet down, 2 starts four feet down, and 3 starts six feet down, and same with the 4, 5, 6 on the other side. So six points, each with about a 2 x 2 space where a crossbow bolt could be shot from. If the rogue were attacking from out in the open, you would know precisely which point from their space the shot is coming from, which means you'd know the angle and the part of you they are targeting, making it easier for you to dodge. However, if the rogue is shooting by popping out from behind that 7x5 wall, you don't know which of the 6 points along the sides of the wall the shot will come from. Even though you know it will come from one of those six points, you don't know which point unlike if the rogue had been out in the open. So it has nothing to do with "unexpected" - you expect the shot you just cannot expect the point the shot will come from. Nor does it strain credulity to believe that "not knowing what point among six points" a shot will come from should provide some advantage to the shooter, since it's more difficult for the target to dodge a shot when they don't know which point (which means which angle and the point on the target it will be directed at) it will come from even though they expect a shot will come from one of those six points. [/QUOTE]
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