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Rogues are Awesome. Is it the Tasha's Effect?
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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8181918" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Right, but if you set aside the term “hide” for a second and look at what’s actually happening, I think it makes sense. A lightfoot halfling positions themself with a Medium creature between themself and their target, so as to obscure their target’s vision of them. The target can’t see the lightfoot halfling clearly, but does still know their location. The halfling, being naturally stealthy, can use their bonus action to take advantage of the target’s obscured view, allowing them to make a ranged attack with advantage from this position (though also at a -2 penalty since the Medium creature is granting their target half cover.) On the target’s turn, they know exactly where the halfling is, and can easily reposition themself so they can see and even attack the halfling.</p><p></p><p>I don’t see anything unreasonable about that narratively. The halfling isn’t so much “hidden” in the colloquial sense, so much as they are sufficiently obscured that the target can’t see them making the attack, and therefore can’t easily anticipate when the attack will come or from what precise angle. If being within 5 feet of one of the halfling’s allies is enough to qualify for sneak attack, it seems perfectly reasonable to me that this would be too.</p><p></p><p>Well, technically it does say “you can <em>attempt</em> to hide, not that you can always successfully hide. It’s still up to the DM to determine if the attempt succeeds, fails, or requires a check to resolve. While I personally think it’s against the spirit of the ability to say that the attempt fails without a check, it is well within the DM’s role to rule that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8181918, member: 6779196"] Right, but if you set aside the term “hide” for a second and look at what’s actually happening, I think it makes sense. A lightfoot halfling positions themself with a Medium creature between themself and their target, so as to obscure their target’s vision of them. The target can’t see the lightfoot halfling clearly, but does still know their location. The halfling, being naturally stealthy, can use their bonus action to take advantage of the target’s obscured view, allowing them to make a ranged attack with advantage from this position (though also at a -2 penalty since the Medium creature is granting their target half cover.) On the target’s turn, they know exactly where the halfling is, and can easily reposition themself so they can see and even attack the halfling. I don’t see anything unreasonable about that narratively. The halfling isn’t so much “hidden” in the colloquial sense, so much as they are sufficiently obscured that the target can’t see them making the attack, and therefore can’t easily anticipate when the attack will come or from what precise angle. If being within 5 feet of one of the halfling’s allies is enough to qualify for sneak attack, it seems perfectly reasonable to me that this would be too. Well, technically it does say “you can [I]attempt[/I] to hide, not that you can always successfully hide. It’s still up to the DM to determine if the attempt succeeds, fails, or requires a check to resolve. While I personally think it’s against the spirit of the ability to say that the attempt fails without a check, it is well within the DM’s role to rule that way. [/QUOTE]
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