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Rogues are Awesome. Is it the Tasha's Effect?
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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8181926" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>Maybe I am doing hide wrong? Here is my 2 cents:</p><p></p><p>A rogue needs to be fully obscured to hide in combat. Generally, the only way to attack from a hidden position in combat is being in darkness vs a creature without darkvision or being invisibile. That means a Rogue is generally not going to be able to attack while hidden. You can hide behind that tapestry, meaning the enemy does not know where you are, but as soon as you step out to shoot you are no longer hidden and no longer have advantage. I suppose you can shoot through the tapestry, but then you can't see the enemy and have disadvantage which cancels the being hidden advantage. If it is a wall or an overturned table you are hiding behind you can't shoot through it (and neither can the enemy).</p><p></p><p>That is how I play my game. So the Rogue can hide repeatedly behind that same tapestry and when he is behind there he is hidden and gains all the advantages from such. In such an example the enemy not only has disadvantage he does not know where to shoot - assuming a 15' wide tapestry does he shoot at the left side, the right side or the center of the tapestry. If he picks center and the Rogue is on the left it is an automatic miss. If he picks correctly he has disadvantage on the roll because he can't see him. If the Rogue fails his stealth he is still behind the tapestry but the enemy knows where he is - the enemy still can't see him though and gets disadvantage on his roll.</p><p></p><p>Now the key difference with halflings is they can hide behind a creature that is one size bigger. This means they can hide while partially obscured by another creature. Thematically I guess you don't know if he is behind the right leg or left leg or on his back......</p><p></p><p>This means unlike other Rogues, halfings CAN attack from a hidden position regularly during combat. Note they have to attack from behind the creature, which means the enemy has cover, usually a+5 to AC although it can be less for a huge or larger enemy. The halflings can do that every single round in my game if they pass their stealth check. They get the advantage but they also take the cover penalty. If they move out from behind the creature before shooting to avoid the cover penalty then they are no longer hidden, just like the Rogue that moves out from behind the tapestry.</p><p></p><p>This is how we run my game and I think this is RAI.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8181926, member: 6855259"] Maybe I am doing hide wrong? Here is my 2 cents: A rogue needs to be fully obscured to hide in combat. Generally, the only way to attack from a hidden position in combat is being in darkness vs a creature without darkvision or being invisibile. That means a Rogue is generally not going to be able to attack while hidden. You can hide behind that tapestry, meaning the enemy does not know where you are, but as soon as you step out to shoot you are no longer hidden and no longer have advantage. I suppose you can shoot through the tapestry, but then you can't see the enemy and have disadvantage which cancels the being hidden advantage. If it is a wall or an overturned table you are hiding behind you can't shoot through it (and neither can the enemy). That is how I play my game. So the Rogue can hide repeatedly behind that same tapestry and when he is behind there he is hidden and gains all the advantages from such. In such an example the enemy not only has disadvantage he does not know where to shoot - assuming a 15' wide tapestry does he shoot at the left side, the right side or the center of the tapestry. If he picks center and the Rogue is on the left it is an automatic miss. If he picks correctly he has disadvantage on the roll because he can't see him. If the Rogue fails his stealth he is still behind the tapestry but the enemy knows where he is - the enemy still can't see him though and gets disadvantage on his roll. Now the key difference with halflings is they can hide behind a creature that is one size bigger. This means they can hide while partially obscured by another creature. Thematically I guess you don't know if he is behind the right leg or left leg or on his back...... This means unlike other Rogues, halfings CAN attack from a hidden position regularly during combat. Note they have to attack from behind the creature, which means the enemy has cover, usually a+5 to AC although it can be less for a huge or larger enemy. The halflings can do that every single round in my game if they pass their stealth check. They get the advantage but they also take the cover penalty. If they move out from behind the creature before shooting to avoid the cover penalty then they are no longer hidden, just like the Rogue that moves out from behind the tapestry. This is how we run my game and I think this is RAI. [/QUOTE]
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