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Rogues are Awesome. Is it the Tasha's Effect?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 8199174" data-attributes="member: 6777737"><p>Yes, it's really left quite open. The two relevant parts are <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/using-ability-scores#Initiative" target="_blank">the sidebar in the Using Ability Scores section that details Hiding</a>, and <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/phb/combat#UnseenAttackersandTargets" target="_blank">the section in the Combat chapter that details unseen attackers</a>. That's basically it unless you look for rulings in the Twitterverse.</p><p></p><p>It's left very open to interpretation. It's clear that you need to have exceptional or unusual circumstances to be able to step out of hiding and make a melee attack, but shooting a ranged weapon from a hiding spot is pretty strongly implied to be allowed because a hidden attacker doesn't reveal their position until the attack hits or misses, which is after the attack roll has been made.</p><p></p><p>The stealth rules in general are all very "stealth and hiding works in the most common sense way possible according to the DM and here's the opposed check to use to adjudicate it," which is perfectly fine until you get abilities that tell you to stop using common sense for this specific exception. Which is to say, halfling naturally stealthy or wood elf mask of the wild. Now it feels like the game is telling the DM and players that sometimes common sense doesn't apply. It's just weird.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 8199174, member: 6777737"] Yes, it's really left quite open. The two relevant parts are [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/using-ability-scores#Initiative']the sidebar in the Using Ability Scores section that details Hiding[/URL], and [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/phb/combat#UnseenAttackersandTargets']the section in the Combat chapter that details unseen attackers[/URL]. That's basically it unless you look for rulings in the Twitterverse. It's left very open to interpretation. It's clear that you need to have exceptional or unusual circumstances to be able to step out of hiding and make a melee attack, but shooting a ranged weapon from a hiding spot is pretty strongly implied to be allowed because a hidden attacker doesn't reveal their position until the attack hits or misses, which is after the attack roll has been made. The stealth rules in general are all very "stealth and hiding works in the most common sense way possible according to the DM and here's the opposed check to use to adjudicate it," which is perfectly fine until you get abilities that tell you to stop using common sense for this specific exception. Which is to say, halfling naturally stealthy or wood elf mask of the wild. Now it feels like the game is telling the DM and players that sometimes common sense doesn't apply. It's just weird. [/QUOTE]
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