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Rogues are Awesome. Is it the Tasha's Effect?
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<blockquote data-quote="fearsomepirate" data-source="post: 8199454" data-attributes="member: 7021420"><p>If the attack has already happened, damage has already been rolled. The d20 roll doesn't represent any particular moment in time. In melee, it doesn't even represent an individual strike of the weapon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No attack, no peeking, drawing your bow, or aiming. They didn't feel the need to specify that (they did actually specify that loading a weapon is part of the attack), and yet here we are, arguing over whether there's some kind of preparatory phase that happens before the Action itself to determine whether or not you're hidden.</p><p></p><p>They use the same phrase they use everywhere else, "when you make an attack." They've even gone on a podcast to explain it. Just bear with me, suppose that they intended to express that in the following sequence of events:</p><p></p><p>Player: I use a bonus action to hide in the shrubbery [rolls high].</p><p>GM: You are now hidden.</p><p>Player: Okay, I attack with my hand crossbow</p><p></p><p>that the player is to understand that he attacks with advantage. How do you think Mearls, Crawford, etc, would have expressed themselves in the PHB if that's what they meant? Because if the argument is that this situation is not at all what they had in mind by "If you are hidden when you make an attack," how do you think they would have expressed it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fearsomepirate, post: 8199454, member: 7021420"] If the attack has already happened, damage has already been rolled. The d20 roll doesn't represent any particular moment in time. In melee, it doesn't even represent an individual strike of the weapon. No attack, no peeking, drawing your bow, or aiming. They didn't feel the need to specify that (they did actually specify that loading a weapon is part of the attack), and yet here we are, arguing over whether there's some kind of preparatory phase that happens before the Action itself to determine whether or not you're hidden. They use the same phrase they use everywhere else, "when you make an attack." They've even gone on a podcast to explain it. Just bear with me, suppose that they intended to express that in the following sequence of events: Player: I use a bonus action to hide in the shrubbery [rolls high]. GM: You are now hidden. Player: Okay, I attack with my hand crossbow that the player is to understand that he attacks with advantage. How do you think Mearls, Crawford, etc, would have expressed themselves in the PHB if that's what they meant? Because if the argument is that this situation is not at all what they had in mind by "If you are hidden when you make an attack," how do you think they would have expressed it? [/QUOTE]
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