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Rogues are Awesome. Is it the Tasha's Effect?
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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8199470" data-attributes="member: 6855259"><p>No they don't. The rules are clear: PHB page 177:</p><p></p><p>"you can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly ..... In combat most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature it usually sees you..."</p><p></p><p>Further to get technical being "hidden" does not give you advantage it is being "unseen" that gives you advantage. PHB p. 195: "When a creature can't see you, you have advantage on attack rolls against it"</p><p></p><p>So if your definition of being "hidden" includes in a case where you are seen (i.e. sticking your head out from behind a wall) then RAW you do not get advantage on the attack. Call yourself still "hidden" if you want, but nothing in the rules say or suggest you should have advantage on that attack.</p><p></p><p>Finally I will add that if your arguement is the Rogue is still "unseen" because he just sticks his head out for a short time to attack, well that is the case for everyone behind a wall who sticks his head out and attacks, so then being "hidden" is really irrelevant.</p><p></p><p>A few more questions:</p><p>1. if the Rogue is still unseen and hidden behind an obstacle (tree, wall, overturned table) when he makes an attack then how can he see whoever he is shooting at? If the enemy can't see him then he can't see the enemy right? Moreover if he can't see the enemy he is shooting at doesn't the Rogue have disadvantage on the attack? You can't have it both ways, either he is unseen or not. This is not true in all cases but it is in the ones we are debating about - Rogue goes behind a wall and hides and then comes out next round and is still unseen.</p><p></p><p>2. What is the purpose of the skulker feat? Can't all creatures hide like that under your interpretation? Same with wood elf mask of the wild. Why is this even an ability?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8199470, member: 6855259"] No they don't. The rules are clear: PHB page 177: "you can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly ..... In combat most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature it usually sees you..." Further to get technical being "hidden" does not give you advantage it is being "unseen" that gives you advantage. PHB p. 195: "When a creature can't see you, you have advantage on attack rolls against it" So if your definition of being "hidden" includes in a case where you are seen (i.e. sticking your head out from behind a wall) then RAW you do not get advantage on the attack. Call yourself still "hidden" if you want, but nothing in the rules say or suggest you should have advantage on that attack. Finally I will add that if your arguement is the Rogue is still "unseen" because he just sticks his head out for a short time to attack, well that is the case for everyone behind a wall who sticks his head out and attacks, so then being "hidden" is really irrelevant. A few more questions: 1. if the Rogue is still unseen and hidden behind an obstacle (tree, wall, overturned table) when he makes an attack then how can he see whoever he is shooting at? If the enemy can't see him then he can't see the enemy right? Moreover if he can't see the enemy he is shooting at doesn't the Rogue have disadvantage on the attack? You can't have it both ways, either he is unseen or not. This is not true in all cases but it is in the ones we are debating about - Rogue goes behind a wall and hides and then comes out next round and is still unseen. 2. What is the purpose of the skulker feat? Can't all creatures hide like that under your interpretation? Same with wood elf mask of the wild. Why is this even an ability? [/QUOTE]
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