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<blockquote data-quote="auburn2" data-source="post: 8200118" data-attributes="member: 6855259">That is not true.&nbsp; You can be completely obscured by foilage.&nbsp; Or if you are in darkness and the enemy is in dim or bright light or anything else that stops vision.Think about playing hide and seek as a kid, you can hide in the bush and you can see &quot;it&quot; looking for you but he can't see you unless he walks right up to the bush.&nbsp; He might know you are in the bush (d&amp;d terms &quot;not hidden&quot;) but he still cant see you.&nbsp; Taking this to D&amp;D if he does this and walks right up to the bush during combat and is close enough to see you or any part of you clearly through the breaks in the leaves, then yes you would not be hidden.&nbsp; Likewise if he walks around the other side of the boulder or climbs up on it and looks down on you then you are no longer hidden.If you are talking about cover and that cover is not translucent then you are correct - if you can&nbsp; see him, he can see you and that is why you can't jump out and shoot with advantage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="auburn2, post: 8200118, member: 6855259"] That is not true. You can be completely obscured by foilage. Or if you are in darkness and the enemy is in dim or bright light or anything else that stops vision. Think about playing hide and seek as a kid, you can hide in the bush and you can see "it" looking for you but he can't see you unless he walks right up to the bush. He might know you are in the bush (d&d terms "not hidden") but he still cant see you. Taking this to D&D if he does this and walks right up to the bush during combat and is close enough to see you or any part of you clearly through the breaks in the leaves, then yes you would not be hidden. Likewise if he walks around the other side of the boulder or climbs up on it and looks down on you then you are no longer hidden. If you are talking about cover and that cover is not translucent then you are correct - if you can see him, he can see you and that is why you can't jump out and shoot with advantage. [/QUOTE]

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