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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8200190" data-attributes="member: 2525">LOL he gives only four examples and that is two of them (the roof by range, and the corner attack in melee)! He's saying if you can shoot your target without leaving that spot, or hit your target with a melee weapon without leaving your spot, LIKE BY LEANING OUT BRIEFLY TO SEE YOUR TARGET AND SHOOT or like LEANING QUICKLY AROUND THE CORNER TO THRUST YOUR RAPIER, then you can do it. HOWEVER you give away your position whether you miss or hit with the attack (unless you have the skulker feat, in which case you only give it away if you hit). I don't need to explain anything away. You're not "running out into the open" if you pop out briefly from cover without leaving your space. Which is what I have said all along. NOBODY in this thread said you run out into the open leaving your spot. We've all said the same thing they talk about in that interview, you pop your head out for a second to shoot. Or, you pop your head around the corner and attack with your melee weapon to someone right around that corner. Both are attacks without leaving the place you are hidden, and both are leaning/popping your head and weapon out from cover to make the attack. The spot. The 5' square you're in. That's what he is referring to. You're behind a 3' wall, kneeling down to hide so you are not seen or heard and you rolled good enough on your stealth check. You stand up quick and shoot. You never left the space (square) you were hidden in but you retain the benefit of hiding until the attack is resolved (either a hit or miss). That is the kind of situation he is talking about. That's what he means by "split second where they emerge just to make the attack they get that benefit," and it's why he says rogues from range should get this often. You LEAN OUT, or you POP UP from behind the cover, without leaving the space. That's what "emerge" means here. In addition, it gives meaning to the Lightfoot Halfling ability which lets you hide behind an ally, and it gives meaning to the Ranger's hide in nature ability, and it gives meaning to other hide-benefitting abilities. What the heck did you think the lightfoot halfling ability did if you couldn't use it to attack from behind an ally while hidden?</blockquote>

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