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Rogues are Awesome. Is it the Tasha's Effect?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8200247" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>They can. Of course they can! They just need to be unseen and unheard, succeed at their stealth action, make their stealth check vs the passive perception of their foes, and then lean out and fire at the target on their turn. They will do it with advantage, just no sneak attack unless they are a rogue.</p><p></p><p>It's just that, because rogues can hide as a bonus action, and because they use advantage to get sneak attack, it's the most common strategy for the rogue.</p><p></p><p>They can. But they need to spend an action to use stealth. The rogue can do it as a bonus action. But sure the fighter can do it if they are willing to spend an action doing it. Kinda not worth it though. This is why the true strike cantrip is so unpopular. Not worth advantage to spend an action using stealth. Unless...you're rogue with a bonus action to do it and the expertise in stealth to pull it off.</p><p></p><p>No, none can do it unless they have cover which makes them unseen prior to the attack so they can use stealth. And then of course they need to spend an action to do it.</p><p></p><p>It's pretty simple: Step 1) Move to where you are unseen and unheard which will usually be full cover unless you're a lightfoot halfling who can do this behind a medium or large ally, 2) Use stealth, as an action if you're a non-rogue or as a bonus action with cunning action if you are a rogue, 3) beat your target's passive perception with your stealth check, which means you hopefully have a good dex and are trained in stealth (and maybe have expertise in it), 4) on your next turn pop/lean out from cover and fire, with advantage, which ends your stealth after you resolve if you have hit or miss with the attack, 5) see step 1.</p><p></p><p>Most rogue players have been doing this, for years and years now. Particularly the lightfoot halfing ones. It's how most of those ranged rogues get sneak attack. It's not broken, it works fine, it's how it was intended to be used, and it's why Steady Aim was added to the game so DMs who don't want to deal with all that can just give their PCs a blanket option to achieve the same thing easier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8200247, member: 2525"] They can. Of course they can! They just need to be unseen and unheard, succeed at their stealth action, make their stealth check vs the passive perception of their foes, and then lean out and fire at the target on their turn. They will do it with advantage, just no sneak attack unless they are a rogue. It's just that, because rogues can hide as a bonus action, and because they use advantage to get sneak attack, it's the most common strategy for the rogue. They can. But they need to spend an action to use stealth. The rogue can do it as a bonus action. But sure the fighter can do it if they are willing to spend an action doing it. Kinda not worth it though. This is why the true strike cantrip is so unpopular. Not worth advantage to spend an action using stealth. Unless...you're rogue with a bonus action to do it and the expertise in stealth to pull it off. No, none can do it unless they have cover which makes them unseen prior to the attack so they can use stealth. And then of course they need to spend an action to do it. It's pretty simple: Step 1) Move to where you are unseen and unheard which will usually be full cover unless you're a lightfoot halfling who can do this behind a medium or large ally, 2) Use stealth, as an action if you're a non-rogue or as a bonus action with cunning action if you are a rogue, 3) beat your target's passive perception with your stealth check, which means you hopefully have a good dex and are trained in stealth (and maybe have expertise in it), 4) on your next turn pop/lean out from cover and fire, with advantage, which ends your stealth after you resolve if you have hit or miss with the attack, 5) see step 1. Most rogue players have been doing this, for years and years now. Particularly the lightfoot halfing ones. It's how most of those ranged rogues get sneak attack. It's not broken, it works fine, it's how it was intended to be used, and it's why Steady Aim was added to the game so DMs who don't want to deal with all that can just give their PCs a blanket option to achieve the same thing easier. [/QUOTE]
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