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Rogue's Cunning Action to Hide: In Combat??
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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8374008" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>Nothing in the rules suggests that you shouldn’t get the benefits of being hidden if your opponent knows your location, and the lightfoot halfling’s naturally stealthy feature would be useless if that was the case. The DM decides when it’s possible to hide, but the effects of being hidden are quite clear and explicit, so if you allow them to become hidden, they should gain those benefits.</p><p></p><p>Specifically, being hidden gives you three benefits: you have advantage on attacks against creatures you’re hidden from, creatures you’re hidden from don’t know your location, and attackers who correctly guess your location have disadvantage on attacks against you. If you’re hidden but in an obvious spot like behind a barrel, or a pillar, or a tree, or your Medium sized ally, this should negate the second benefit, but not the first or the third. As a point of comparison, consider a creature that is invisible but not hidden. They will have advantage on attack rolls even though targets will know where the attack is coming from, and attacks against them have disadvantage even though attackers know their position. This is because while observers can discern the invisible creature’s location well enough to attack in the right spot, they still have a harder time hitting what they can’t see, and don’t know exactly when an attack is coming or from what angle. So why would that not also be the case with targets that are unseen and unheard but hidden in an obvious spot?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8374008, member: 6779196"] Nothing in the rules suggests that you shouldn’t get the benefits of being hidden if your opponent knows your location, and the lightfoot halfling’s naturally stealthy feature would be useless if that was the case. The DM decides when it’s possible to hide, but the effects of being hidden are quite clear and explicit, so if you allow them to become hidden, they should gain those benefits. Specifically, being hidden gives you three benefits: you have advantage on attacks against creatures you’re hidden from, creatures you’re hidden from don’t know your location, and attackers who correctly guess your location have disadvantage on attacks against you. If you’re hidden but in an obvious spot like behind a barrel, or a pillar, or a tree, or your Medium sized ally, this should negate the second benefit, but not the first or the third. As a point of comparison, consider a creature that is invisible but not hidden. They will have advantage on attack rolls even though targets will know where the attack is coming from, and attacks against them have disadvantage even though attackers know their position. This is because while observers can discern the invisible creature’s location well enough to attack in the right spot, they still have a harder time hitting what they can’t see, and don’t know exactly when an attack is coming or from what angle. So why would that not also be the case with targets that are unseen and unheard but hidden in an obvious spot? [/QUOTE]
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