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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8374138" data-attributes="member: 6779196">I mean, they’re not wrong. It’s their game, their rules, regardless of what the book says or how anyone here interprets it. Personally I think the “physics” based argument is silly and based on a misunderstanding of what being “hidden” actually means in terms of the D&amp;D rules (of course the monster won’t forget the rogue exists, that has nothing to do with it), and I would not play a rogue in a game they were DMing. But ultimately that doesn’t matter because it’s their call, and soliciting opinions from the forums to win an argument with your DM is both ineffective and generally considered bad form.I don’t know what that “I don’t want to kill their joy by taking away their choices” thing is about though. Seems like there’s some additional context about this disagreement that you left out. Whatever’s going on with you and your DM, you should really address it with them directly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8374138, member: 6779196"] I mean, they’re not wrong. It’s their game, their rules, regardless of what the book says or how anyone here interprets it. Personally I think the “physics” based argument is silly and based on a misunderstanding of what being “hidden” actually means in terms of the D&D rules (of course the monster won’t forget the rogue exists, that has nothing to do with it), and I would not play a rogue in a game they were DMing. But ultimately that doesn’t matter because it’s their call, and soliciting opinions from the forums to win an argument with your DM is both ineffective and generally considered bad form. I don’t know what that “I don’t want to kill their joy by taking away their choices” thing is about though. Seems like there’s some additional context about this disagreement that you left out. Whatever’s going on with you and your DM, you should really address it with them directly. [/QUOTE]

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