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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8374275" data-attributes="member: 16814">Yep.&nbsp; There's two approaches that you can use here.&nbsp; You can imagine the fiction first, in detail, including the actions taken by the PC, and decide if that makes sense.&nbsp; The issue here is that you're picking what that action looks like and fixing the entire situation beforehand, which is highly susceptible to bias or a mismatch between the player and the GM.&nbsp; Eg, the Oni is staring at the halfing, and the halfing attempts to stand behind the ranger but it's pretty clear that they Oni can see them peeking around the cape.Alternatively, you could acknowledge that the rules intend this, allow the check, and then modify how you imagine the fiction to accommodate the result.&nbsp; Turns out that fiction can be modified in lots of ways to explain things.&nbsp; Eg, the Oni looks at the fighter to parry a blow, and when they scan the room again that halfling has disappeared!&nbsp; Almost every argument I see for verisimilitude invokes the former approach.&nbsp; Neither is wrong, but, man, I tell you my game got better and didn't become farcical or lose verisimilitude when I switched to the latter approach.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8374275, member: 16814"] Yep. There's two approaches that you can use here. You can imagine the fiction first, in detail, including the actions taken by the PC, and decide if that makes sense. The issue here is that you're picking what that action looks like and fixing the entire situation beforehand, which is highly susceptible to bias or a mismatch between the player and the GM. Eg, the Oni is staring at the halfing, and the halfing attempts to stand behind the ranger but it's pretty clear that they Oni can see them peeking around the cape. Alternatively, you could acknowledge that the rules intend this, allow the check, and then modify how you imagine the fiction to accommodate the result. Turns out that fiction can be modified in lots of ways to explain things. Eg, the Oni looks at the fighter to parry a blow, and when they scan the room again that halfling has disappeared! Almost every argument I see for verisimilitude invokes the former approach. Neither is wrong, but, man, I tell you my game got better and didn't become farcical or lose verisimilitude when I switched to the latter approach. [/QUOTE]

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