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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8375298" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Yeah, I'm not sure I agree at all that such deference should be shown to a GM that you apologize regardless of if you think you have anything to apologize for.&nbsp; That's what you do to show social deference to a superior.&nbsp; Regardless of your admonitions on how to properly negotiate, the reality is that the discussion after the game is peer to peer and you're recommending how to butter up someone higher up the pecking order.&nbsp; The GM owes the player as much deference in this out-of-game discussion as the player owes the GM.&nbsp;&nbsp; I strive to engage and consider issues my players bring to me and engage in discussion on the matter without ego as GM -- if the table wants to do things way X, and I can live with that, we do it that way.&nbsp; If I cannot, then we should probably not play this game with this assignment of roles.&nbsp; But the idea that you have to supplicate the GM to convince them, and apologize for a polite question during the game?&nbsp; Yeah, no.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8375298, member: 16814"] Yeah, I'm not sure I agree at all that such deference should be shown to a GM that you apologize regardless of if you think you have anything to apologize for. That's what you do to show social deference to a superior. Regardless of your admonitions on how to properly negotiate, the reality is that the discussion after the game is peer to peer and you're recommending how to butter up someone higher up the pecking order. The GM owes the player as much deference in this out-of-game discussion as the player owes the GM. I strive to engage and consider issues my players bring to me and engage in discussion on the matter without ego as GM -- if the table wants to do things way X, and I can live with that, we do it that way. If I cannot, then we should probably not play this game with this assignment of roles. But the idea that you have to supplicate the GM to convince them, and apologize for a polite question during the game? Yeah, no. [/QUOTE]

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