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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8375372" data-attributes="member: 177">Simple apologies aren't &quot;deferential&quot;.&nbsp; They're basic politeness.&nbsp; &quot;Hey, I'm sorry about how that came out at game.&nbsp; I didn't mean to give you a rough time.&nbsp; I don't quite understand what was happening there, and I'd like to check that we're cool...&quot; or the like is just showing a little respect and care for the other person.I mean, if the other person isn't more important than the ruling... that's not a good scene, right?A friend of 30 years acts in an uncharacteristically brusque manner?&nbsp; Sounds like more of a reason to be considerate, rather than less.I'm rather suggesting to not assume things - I'm suggesting finding out what's up with them, and understanding their perspective before pressing your case, rather than assuming things are normal.&nbsp; If nothing else, the empirical evidence is all around us on this site - simply presenting a counter-argument does not change a lot of minds.&nbsp; We get hundred-page long threads of folks presenting counter arguments to each other, without nary a shift among them.Fair enough.&nbsp; I've said my piece.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8375372, member: 177"] Simple apologies aren't "deferential". They're basic politeness. "Hey, I'm sorry about how that came out at game. I didn't mean to give you a rough time. I don't quite understand what was happening there, and I'd like to check that we're cool..." or the like is just showing a little respect and care for the other person. I mean, if the other person isn't more important than the ruling... that's not a good scene, right? A friend of 30 years acts in an uncharacteristically brusque manner? Sounds like more of a reason to be considerate, rather than less. I'm rather suggesting to not assume things - I'm suggesting finding out what's up with them, and understanding their perspective before pressing your case, rather than assuming things are normal. If nothing else, the empirical evidence is all around us on this site - simply presenting a counter-argument does not change a lot of minds. We get hundred-page long threads of folks presenting counter arguments to each other, without nary a shift among them. Fair enough. I've said my piece. [/QUOTE]

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