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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8375808" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Couple of things.  Given that there are exceptions so that I don't have to repeatedly state "in most cases" or "unless ___".Someone that is hidden can't be directly targeted, so that is an advantage.  It doesn't mean the monster that saw them duck behind the pillar ceases to remember that they exist.  It also doesn't mean they can always attack from where they are - after all the pillar is literally between them and their target.  So the rogue is going to have to move - even if it's just stand up or "lean out" to get line of effect.  At that point it's up to the DM to decide if the target is distracted enough to not notice.  Lines of sight are usually two-way.Let's flip this around.  Say you're a PC and a monster keeps temporarily opening a portal, doing a ranged attack and then the portal closes..  For whatever reason you can't get to the portal or prevent it from opening.  When the portal is closed, the monster is hidden because you have no way of knowing what they're doing back there.Would you expect the monster to get advantage every round they open the portal?  I'd assume no.  But take it even a step further ... you should be able to ready an action.  Something like "when the portal opens and I see the monster I shoot it with an arrow".  Sound okay?  So as a PC you get to attack before the monster.  You reacted to the monster because you knew it would appear from that same portal.To me, advantage just means that the target of the attack never had that moment to react to the attack (although it's obviously not a "reaction" in game terms).  But if the target of the rogue knows where the rogue is going to pop out from, it's already ready for an attack from that location.Ultimately though, it's just a DM's call.  In my games if the target never previously knew the rogue was behind the pillar, it will likely qualify for advantage.  Just not attacking from the same location.</blockquote>

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