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<blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 8375872" data-attributes="member: 6802765">I allow repeatedly hiding in the same position, on the grounds that even though the targets (think they) know the rogue is there, the successful hide check means they can't hear the rogue start moving to give advance warning of an incoming shot. By contrast, someone not hidden in the same position presumably makes noise that lets targets know a shot is imminent. So I'm not ruling that the targets are &quot;surprised&quot; to be repeatedly shot from that location, instead I'm ruling that the successful hide check means the targets don't know when the expected attack is coming, and thus the rogue gets advantage when it leans out (or pops up) and shoots.In this scenario I would not give the monster advantage if the target can see or hear the portal opening. Only the monster is hidden, after all, not the portal itself, and the forewarning of the portal opening allows the target to anticipate the timing of the attack. (The monster might still get advantage if it can attack while remaining entirely unseen, but then hiding has nothing to do with it.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xetheral, post: 8375872, member: 6802765"] I allow repeatedly hiding in the same position, on the grounds that even though the targets (think they) know the rogue is there, the successful hide check means they can't hear the rogue start moving to give advance warning of an incoming shot. By contrast, someone not hidden in the same position presumably makes noise that lets targets know a shot is imminent. So I'm not ruling that the targets are "surprised" to be repeatedly shot from that location, instead I'm ruling that the successful hide check means the targets don't know [I]when[/I] the expected attack is coming, and thus the rogue gets advantage when it leans out (or pops up) and shoots. In this scenario I would not give the monster advantage if the target can see or hear the portal opening. Only the monster is hidden, after all, not the portal itself, and the forewarning of the portal opening allows the target to anticipate the timing of the attack. (The monster might still get advantage if it can attack while remaining entirely unseen, but then hiding has nothing to do with it.) [/QUOTE]

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