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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8377043" data-attributes="member: 6801845">I'm perfectly consistent in what I say and I follow the rules.&nbsp; You insisting that there are &quot;failures&quot; in my argument is meaningless because you can't show me in the rules where I am incorrect.&nbsp; Make your case.&nbsp; If you point out something I missed, great. In the meantime you tend to twist things around to mean whatever you want.&nbsp; I don't believe I missed anything in [USER=7032025]@Lyxen[/USER]'s post about you not roleplaying, although you do seem to believe that your way is the one true way of playing.&nbsp; That hiding is like a Queen moving on a chess board, that if there's a successful hide check they will remain hidden until after they attack.The rules do not say that you remain hidden once you've had a successful hide check.&nbsp; After an attack is made you will (normally) not be hidden.&nbsp; In addition,&nbsp; &quot;You can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly.&quot;&nbsp; The DM may decide the target doesn't notice you before you attack.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8377043, member: 6801845"] I'm perfectly consistent in what I say and I follow the rules. You insisting that there are "failures" in my argument is meaningless because you can't show me in the rules where I am incorrect. Make your case. If you point out something I missed, great. In the meantime you tend to twist things around to mean whatever you want. I don't believe I missed anything in [USER=7032025]@Lyxen[/USER]'s post about you not roleplaying, although you do seem to believe that your way is the one true way of playing. That hiding is like a Queen moving on a chess board, that if there's a successful hide check they will remain hidden until after they attack. The rules do not say that you remain hidden once you've had a successful hide check. After an attack is made you will (normally) not be hidden. In addition, "You can't hide from a creature that can see you clearly." The DM may decide the target doesn't notice you before you attack. 🤷‍♂️ [/QUOTE]

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