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Rogue's Cunning Action to Hide: In Combat??
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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8377983" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>The rules on line of sight are not as clear in 5E as they were in some previous editions, therefore it is up to the DM to make judgement calls. I agree that there are times when they can attack while not seen. A rogue with a ring of invisibility would attack with advantage against most creatures most of the time is one example. If I'm DM, the first time you attack from hidden from a specific position is another.</p><p></p><p>Several things can happen so that you are no longer hidden, whether that's making a loud noise, an enemy moving to a position where they can clearly see you, to any other number of things. Whether "peeking from behind a column, taking aim and firing" more than once qualifies meaning that you are no longer hidden is not clarified anywhere in the rules. The closest rule we have is the text "under certain circumstances, the Dungeon Master might allow you to stay hidden as you approach a creature". If the DM might allow you to stay hidden while approaching, they may allow you to stay hidden while peeking.</p><p></p><p>It's always up to the DM to decide if hiding (and it's corollary staying hidden) is possible. So all this argument about what's "RAW" or not is pointless. Are the people in your game having fun? If yes, then it's all good.</p><p></p><p>That's my story, I'm sticking to it. Feel free to disagree or rule differently. The scenario of attacking multiple times from the same location is not explicitly covered by the rules, therefore it's up to the DM. I don't care how much people claim to know the one true rule that in the darkness binds them.</p><p></p><p>But this argument never goes anywhere and it's been on spin cycle for a few pages. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8377983, member: 6801845"] The rules on line of sight are not as clear in 5E as they were in some previous editions, therefore it is up to the DM to make judgement calls. I agree that there are times when they can attack while not seen. A rogue with a ring of invisibility would attack with advantage against most creatures most of the time is one example. If I'm DM, the first time you attack from hidden from a specific position is another. Several things can happen so that you are no longer hidden, whether that's making a loud noise, an enemy moving to a position where they can clearly see you, to any other number of things. Whether "peeking from behind a column, taking aim and firing" more than once qualifies meaning that you are no longer hidden is not clarified anywhere in the rules. The closest rule we have is the text "under certain circumstances, the Dungeon Master might allow you to stay hidden as you approach a creature". If the DM might allow you to stay hidden while approaching, they may allow you to stay hidden while peeking. It's always up to the DM to decide if hiding (and it's corollary staying hidden) is possible. So all this argument about what's "RAW" or not is pointless. Are the people in your game having fun? If yes, then it's all good. That's my story, I'm sticking to it. Feel free to disagree or rule differently. The scenario of attacking multiple times from the same location is not explicitly covered by the rules, therefore it's up to the DM. I don't care how much people claim to know the one true rule that in the darkness binds them. But this argument never goes anywhere and it's been on spin cycle for a few pages. 🤷♂️ [/QUOTE]
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