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Message: <blockquote data-quote="papastebu" data-source="post: 3591615" data-attributes="member: 40894">The term "class" has always meant "societal stratification" to me. Archtype is more accurate, but is harder to say. All four of the Archtypes are iconic, and some idea of what a character with a given set of skills and abilities will allow in-game is essential. However, the classes do not actually need to exist, at all. Only the abilities that they have are important, as far as in-game actions, and their concepts in the minds of players, as far as what those characters decide on as a course of action.To this point, I say do away with character classes completely, except as an easy way to help those completely new to the game to make a character, first time out. Kind of like pre-gens in Shadowrun, Earthdawn, and others. Otherwise, bring a concept to the gaming table, and devise a system by which the player can choose any combination of skills, abilities, powers, whatever, and limit it through level-dependent choice, or some sort of points-per-level buy system. The character can be as puissant or skillful as the player chooses, but can only go so far per level. Another way to do this would be to have point-buy for everything, like most, if not all, of the White Wolf games, and the character doesn't have levels, so much as plateaus that can be exceeded with more points earned in-game.P.S. I am not talking about D&D, as such, though I understand that this is the thrust of the thread. If classes are used as they stand, often it stands in the way of character concept, rather than facilitating it. This is true of any game or game system you use.</blockquote>

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