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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3593079" data-attributes="member: 30001">Still no &quot;valid&quot; definition of Monopoly?&nbsp; What you're saying about providing your own definition is logically true, but how relevant is it when all the games that I'm familiar with have the same basic attributes as DnD does - they use various props to evoke ideas/themes from other things (money and finance in the case of Monopoly) without pretending to be an accurate simulation of anything.Who said anything about &quot;devouring itself&quot;?&nbsp; All I'm saying in this case is that if DnD is an attempt to model something, I'd like to know what that &quot;something&quot; is.&nbsp; The game imports characters and concepts for some purpose, but it doesn't have to be any other purpose than creative inspiration.&nbsp; It's like if someone writes a song about a book - though the book contributes ideas to the song, it doesn't necessarily prove that the song's purpose is to model something about the book.Logically, I'm just not following everything that you're saying.&nbsp; You say &quot;that some purpose could very well be achieved by killing some sacred cows&quot; without establishing what that purpose is (only &quot;some purpose&quot;).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3593079, member: 30001"] Still no "valid" definition of Monopoly? What you're saying about providing your own definition is logically true, but how relevant is it when all the games that I'm familiar with have the same basic attributes as DnD does - they use various props to evoke ideas/themes from other things (money and finance in the case of Monopoly) without pretending to be an accurate simulation of anything. Who said anything about "devouring itself"? All I'm saying in this case is that if DnD is an attempt to model something, I'd like to know what that "something" is. The game imports characters and concepts for some purpose, but it doesn't have to be any other purpose than creative inspiration. It's like if someone writes a song about a book - though the book contributes ideas to the song, it doesn't necessarily prove that the song's purpose is to model something about the book. Logically, I'm just not following everything that you're saying. You say "that some purpose could very well be achieved by killing some sacred cows" without establishing what that purpose is (only "some purpose"). [/QUOTE]

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