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<blockquote data-quote="Kintara" data-source="post: 4071787" data-attributes="member: 33654">X+CON+LVL*RATE=ZExample Fighter: X+CON+14Y=[120]&lt;-unclear whether it's a valid result, or merely an acceptable number from a designer perspective, or deliberate fuzziness.Rogue: 12+CON+LVL*5=ZCon is really the only variable in the equation for an example character of a particular level, if you know the rules already.Test Fighter: 14+14+14*6=112 If 120 is a &quot;soft&quot; number, then this seems barely acceptable enough to me. Less than 5 is probably better, if the 120 result is really indicative of Fighters at level 15.An equivalent Rogue: 12+14+14*5=96 A mere 16 point difference for a Rogue with 14 Con (or 24 points from 120). But maybe healing surges are where it's at. I donno.Test Fighter: 16+16+14*6=116 Closer to 120....Test Fighter: 18+14+14*8=144 I don't think a designer would &quot;guesstimate&quot; his example 14 points off, if it really was made with 4e's specific rules in mind at all, given the non-random nature of the math. The 120 would probably have to be counted as deliberate (or possibly non-deliberate) fuzziness before it would work for me.Huh. It's kind of interesting to fiddle like this. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kintara, post: 4071787, member: 33654"] X+CON+LVL*RATE=Z Example Fighter: X+CON+14Y=[120]<-unclear whether it's a valid result, or merely an acceptable number from a designer perspective, or deliberate fuzziness. Rogue: 12+CON+LVL*5=Z Con is really the only variable in the equation for an example character of a particular level, if you know the rules already. Test Fighter: 14+14+14*6=112 If 120 is a "soft" number, then this seems barely acceptable enough to me. Less than 5 is probably better, if the 120 result is really indicative of Fighters at level 15. An equivalent Rogue: 12+14+14*5=96 A mere 16 point difference for a Rogue with 14 Con (or 24 points from 120). But maybe healing surges are where it's at. I donno. Test Fighter: 16+16+14*6=116 Closer to 120.... Test Fighter: 18+14+14*8=144 I don't think a designer would "guesstimate" his example 14 points off, if it really was made with 4e's specific rules in mind at all, given the non-random nature of the math. The 120 would probably have to be counted as deliberate (or possibly non-deliberate) fuzziness before it would work for me. Huh. It's kind of interesting to fiddle like this. :) [/QUOTE]

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