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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6549378" data-attributes="member: 6716779">In 1E you had to use thief weapons to backstab, 2E you could use any weapon you were proficient in. In theory in 2E you could back stab for 260 damage using a lance on a large creature, double damage on a chargewith 18/00 strength and weapon specialization+ magic weapon bonus or more via a girdle of giant strength.Without magic items.3d6+6 strength+2 weapon spec X5 backstab X2 charging. = 260. You need a dual class fighter/thief RAW with 18/00 and probably invisibility+silence spell+warhorse/mount..</blockquote>