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<blockquote data-quote="Green1" data-source="post: 6876846" data-attributes="member: 6800543">I can see it now.&quot;So, halfling, you want to join the city Rogue's Guild....&quot;&quot;Yep... I got level 6, trained in stealth. Hell, I am even the Thief archetype instead of Assassin which all the kids like and can break into a lot of things and use my tools and skills like a mage uses spells!&quot;&quot;Do you have darkvision or an item that grants it?&quot;&quot;Err... no. But I may find some rich patron that has something...I am an expert at schmoozing and carousing. I slept with some lord's bored mistress a while back and....&quot;&quot;GET OUT YOU UNOPTIMIZED CRAPLORD! If you can't go into dark tunnels and avoid being eaten while fighters and mages hang back, you are worthless. You should reroll!&quot;&quot;But, why would I want to do that? Oh, I will help. But if it's some expedition, wouldn't the mage do something? I DID my job when I got the map while the mistress was sleeping&quot;The advantage of the rogue is it's versatility. Darkvision is a great tool for underground, but to be honest unless the game is a constant dungeon crawl it is not used all the time. City adventures like blending into a crowd, tailing a suspected cult member of Evil No-Good Badness, climbing the top of a tower to get into an open window a halfling or human can do as well as a dwarf or drow.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Green1, post: 6876846, member: 6800543"] I can see it now. "So, halfling, you want to join the city Rogue's Guild...." "Yep... I got level 6, trained in stealth. Hell, I am even the Thief archetype instead of Assassin which all the kids like and can break into a lot of things and use my tools and skills like a mage uses spells!" "Do you have darkvision or an item that grants it?" "Err... no. But I may find some rich patron that has something...I am an expert at schmoozing and carousing. I slept with some lord's bored mistress a while back and...." "GET OUT YOU UNOPTIMIZED CRAPLORD! If you can't go into dark tunnels and avoid being eaten while fighters and mages hang back, you are worthless. You should reroll!" "But, why would I want to do that? Oh, I will help. But if it's some expedition, wouldn't the mage do something? I DID my job when I got the map while the mistress was sleeping" The advantage of the rogue is it's versatility. Darkvision is a great tool for underground, but to be honest unless the game is a constant dungeon crawl it is not used all the time. City adventures like blending into a crowd, tailing a suspected cult member of Evil No-Good Badness, climbing the top of a tower to get into an open window a halfling or human can do as well as a dwarf or drow. [/QUOTE]

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