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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6877283" data-attributes="member: 12731">I kind of agree.Just switching Elves back to night vision changes the balance, I've found, sufficiently for all-darkvision parties to be much more rare.Which really is all you need. Banning darkvision entirely is not necessary in my opinion. Just all-darkvision parties. In my opinion the 5e designers woefully underestimated the consequences of switching Elves over to the "dark team". It really creates a kind of group presence to avoid humans and halflings, which I'm not used to. It feels wonky."Okay, so you want to be human. Then choose half elf and downplay your elvish traits! And you, I'll buy your pizza if you choose Gnome instead of halfling. Take one for the team!"Yes, in sufficiently optimizing groups, identifying humans and halflings as a weak link happened quickly. PS. I'm DM'ing Out of the Abyss. So all well-meaning advice to expect lighted environments is kindly asked to FUHGEDDABOUDIT. It's the Underdark and it's dark, baby. For fifteen levels straight. Yeah.</blockquote>