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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Empirate" data-source="post: 5778739" data-attributes="member: 78958">NOT a "my fun is better than yours" post; just an observation on what the fantastically ambiguous term "good roleplaying" has come to mean in the group I've been gaming with for more than a decade:I feel good roleplayers should easily be capable of playing dumber than they, the players, are. Constantly shooting out solutions to puzzles and well-crafted tactical plans when you're playing an Int 6 Half-Orc Barbarian smacks of "I need good Str, Dex, and Con! I have to dump some attribute! But I still should be rewarded for being smart as a player, even if I choose not to roleplay!" to me.Dumb players not "roleplaying" smart characters well has nothing to do with this: a slow player simply isn't capable of coming up with all the clever things an Int 18 Wizard will pull out of a hat on a regular basis. That's not bad roleplaying, it's simply outside the player's limitations. A good DM will make sure the player doesn't feel compelled to always play the abovementioned Int 6 Barbarian.A smart player OTOH, especially a smart guy who's also a good roleplayer, can dumb it down - that's within his limitations. He can and should restrain himself from always taking those moments of spotlight other players (of smarter PCs) may feel should be reserved for their characters' talents.</blockquote>