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<blockquote data-quote="thormagni" data-source="post: 2657940" data-attributes="member: 13637"><p>I don't know if everybody has seen the former TV series "Firefly" or the movie based on it "Serenity" but there is a character in it called Jayne (who is a guy, btw.) Jayne is nominally a good guy in that he is a member of the ship's crew, but his answer to anything is generally "kill it." For example, in an early episode of the series they are going to negotiate with a fence named Patience, who shot the ship's captain in a previous adventure. But now they need Patience to fence some goods. Jayne's question is "Why don't we shoot her first?" Similarly, when another fence, Badger, refuses to pay them, Jayne wants to start shooting and take the money. This, despite the fact that they are heavily outnumbered and the bad guys have the drop on him. He is always willing to go after the "bad guy" guns blazing, despite the odds against them, despite the chances of success. </p><p></p><p>Obviously, Jayne would last about two minutes alone. But he is an awfully handy guy to have in a fight. So the trick for the captain is to rein Jayne in until the time when he is needed. </p><p></p><p>I see parallels between the way Jayne is written and the way IM says he likes to play characters. Assuming I am not incorrect, my question for IM is, do your characters allow themselves to be reined in? </p><p></p><p>Because had they killed Patience, they wouldn't have gotten paid and they wouldn't have had money to operate the ship. Or if they killed Badger, they wouldn't have gotten later jobs that led to later plots and future paydays. Badger was temporarily an enemy and worthy of killing, but he later became almost a friend. Jayne wanted to kill River (a young woman hunted by the Alliance) because she was a threat to them, although later she proved invaluable in saving their lives in the movie. </p><p></p><p>As you say, leaving Gollum alive seemed like a bad idea, but had Gandalf or Frodo let Sam kill Smeagol, the book would have ended very differently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thormagni, post: 2657940, member: 13637"] I don't know if everybody has seen the former TV series "Firefly" or the movie based on it "Serenity" but there is a character in it called Jayne (who is a guy, btw.) Jayne is nominally a good guy in that he is a member of the ship's crew, but his answer to anything is generally "kill it." For example, in an early episode of the series they are going to negotiate with a fence named Patience, who shot the ship's captain in a previous adventure. But now they need Patience to fence some goods. Jayne's question is "Why don't we shoot her first?" Similarly, when another fence, Badger, refuses to pay them, Jayne wants to start shooting and take the money. This, despite the fact that they are heavily outnumbered and the bad guys have the drop on him. He is always willing to go after the "bad guy" guns blazing, despite the odds against them, despite the chances of success. Obviously, Jayne would last about two minutes alone. But he is an awfully handy guy to have in a fight. So the trick for the captain is to rein Jayne in until the time when he is needed. I see parallels between the way Jayne is written and the way IM says he likes to play characters. Assuming I am not incorrect, my question for IM is, do your characters allow themselves to be reined in? Because had they killed Patience, they wouldn't have gotten paid and they wouldn't have had money to operate the ship. Or if they killed Badger, they wouldn't have gotten later jobs that led to later plots and future paydays. Badger was temporarily an enemy and worthy of killing, but he later became almost a friend. Jayne wanted to kill River (a young woman hunted by the Alliance) because she was a threat to them, although later she proved invaluable in saving their lives in the movie. As you say, leaving Gollum alive seemed like a bad idea, but had Gandalf or Frodo let Sam kill Smeagol, the book would have ended very differently. [/QUOTE]
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