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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 3907513" data-attributes="member: 5143">Yet this is the exact opposite of what drew me to D&D in the first place.  My favorite part of D&D is that it is a team based game where people have to work together to accomplish goals.  Sure, I like the story and I want to figure out what happens next, but the real part I look forward are those times that the group pulls together as a team to accomplish way more than they could do alone.I like the fact that fighters can't heal themselves easily.  I like that wizards are fairly weak in hand to hand combat.  I like that clerics can't disable traps and open locks.  I like that ever class has something they need other people for.  I found that 3e started becoming too homogeneous.  All characters could do anything they wanted to since the classes, feats, PrC, alternate class features, etc all allowed you to play a wizard who was a cleric, a rogue, and a fighter as well.I love classes, I love class roles.  I think there should be some wiggle room to make different types of characters within that role, but not to infringe on other people's roles.  Too many times I've played in groups where someone decided to play a rogue because they really liked the idea of searching for traps, disabling them, unlocking doors, etc only to have someone else play a wizard with 1 level of rogue who was better at all the rogue skills than the pure rogue was.  Or someone plays a fighter since they want to be the big bad, strong guy in the group only to have the druid or wizard become bigger and stronger than he is.Everytime this has happened it has ended up with disappointed players who thought they were playing the best class for their role and instead found out that the best people for their role were classes that didn't seem like they should be.  But you could only build the other classes that way if you had read all the rules and were really knowledgeable.  The new players didn't have the ability to do that, so they were left out.</blockquote>

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