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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimlock" data-source="post: 5573518" data-attributes="member: 6674931">ok... So batman (optimized character) gets to deal with the Joker (dragon)...while the robinS get to deal with the gimps back at the warehouse, while Batman watches over in case those lame robins twist the ankles...what a lovely game...and so much fun for everybody to share... Trying to create a balanced party, and finally coming up with some unbalanced characters because D&D is full of traps (to which i totally agree) is one thing.Trying to make an optimized character when the others don't, is another thing.The answer is simple. The game group (yes... not just the DM, the players as well) should have known better, than allowing such an imbalance in the game. In case this comes in the game and not before (which can easily happen because of inexperience), the game group should find ways to balance things out.Again, a DM that allows a couple of superheroes into his game so as to assure the story's continuation (without having to break his head over deaths, resurrections and new characters) is not doing his job right.Players are not that stupid so as to "miss'' how the managed to survive. If they know it and feel comfortable with it, well... they should feel sorry for their own self esteem... they might as well play "dragon age 2" on extra-super-easy... and get their kicks out of playing that game instead.</blockquote>